Deep space nine type gray areas are a must. Give me a spock by the pale moonlight episode.
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Maybe they could get back to writing more stories about an object oriented universe instead of only writing about the ego oriented universe. Every single star trek franchise since enterprise is a space soap opera.
Every single star trek franchise since enterprise is a space soap opera.
That's always been Star Trek. Don't make me go through the TNG back catalogue.
The interpersonal dramas are what separate the Trekkies from the SW nerds. You don't need a planet killing superweapon to tell a story. It's enough to have two people trapped on a deserted planet who don't speak the same language, but need one another to survive.
I never said trek didn't have any drama, only that modern star trek is nothing but egocentric soap opera, and pays lip service to the science and engineering part of the science fiction.
Previous trek iterations included both object science stories and subjective egoism in a very different ratio. How TNG, tos, voyager or Enterprise dealt with technology and exploration challenges is worlds apart from discovery, or even strange new worlds. The amount of screen time each show devotes to character development and the amount it focuses on the objective challenges of the world is very different. There is a clear direction to make politics, personal drama and interpersonal conflict both more dramatic and the center of the storylines in the modern star trek catalogue. These shows no longer being mostly episodic stories but season long, prolonged character development vehicles, is also part of the subjective egoism that now dominates the franchise. It's almost all about character journeys, relationship conflicts and political posturing. The object oriented stories of science, engineering, exploration, discovery, philosophy or even technologies as a setting for character stories is largely absent now. It's more reality tv show drama and less exploration and adventure, and even when they do have those object focused stories, they have little meaningful impact on the story or the audience.
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This guy stinks, but I agree that Trek is better with more episodes per season. Bring in more guest writers, and do cheaper episodes. Try weird stuff! Some of the best episodes are just are just two guys, sometimes one's an alien, talking in front of a camera
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Take it slow, take your time, let us fill in the blanks, give us the journey, let’s grow together.
So long as it doesn't mean adding filler episodes where any changes to the established situation get undone in the last five minutes, yes.
Brits: Must be nice. We get 1 series with like 3 episodes annually and a Christmas special every leap year. Unless it's a panel show or Taskmaster which each have 10 series a year.
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Big fat nope. Disagree. The British had it right before. Quality over quantity.
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Also with significantly smaller budgets, please.
It's abundantly clear that bigger budgets just get wasted on creating spectacle. With small budgets the strength has to be in the writing to carry the episodes.
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I don't know. I think there are good shows and bad shows and it doesn't matter how many episodes per season they have. It doesn't matter how much they split it up, if they just keep on making up stuff just for the sake of going on instead of working towards a planned goal. With the shorter shows I get the feeling that they knew where they were going when filming started more than with the older 24 episode shows. But as I said, you get good and bad examples for both long and short seasons.
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How about just one or two at a time, with ~20 episodes per season? Actually sounds kinda familiar.
I enjoyed Babylon 5 which had 22 episode seasons. As much as I'd like to go back to that format, each season did have a bunch of filler episodes.
I guess it helped break up the season so you didn't just have a run of 8-10 episodes all on the same thing, but at the same time, how much of the filler gets re-watched?
I'm being told Peacemaker Season 2, Episodes 6-8 get NUTS. To a point where it feels like season 3 in 3 episodes. Guess we'll find out on Thursday...
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Long form content, in general, seems to be going out of fashion.
It's not just TV. Short articles outperform long deep dives in papers. Same with longer YouTube videos, which extends to the rise of shorts. Mobile and 'short session' games make up a huge chunk of playtime. I'm not sure about 'big' literature, but even fanfiction and amateur works are skewing towards collections of short, fluffy pieces instead of long-form adventures now.
It's not just attention spans or strained attention capacity either; my impression is energy/time levels to devote to that are dropping. I know a working couple with no kids that still transitioned to shorter-form YouTube stuff over TV because they're just too tired from work + basic maintenance.