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[–] TheObviousSolution@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago

Gun deaths from the son of a sheriff deputy and care worker, y'know, the typical "homegrowns".

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 8 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

God given rights?

Didn't the British leave Britain for America to get away from the church and give themselves their own rights?

[–] masinko@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

Jesus famously turned wine into an M-16.

[–] basxto@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 12 hours ago

Not just Britain and no. A lot of very religious people fled there because they were persecuted by differently religious people. That’s why the US constitution also protects freedom of religion.

Though the US constitution doesn’t seem to mention the word "god" somewhere.

[–] m4xie@lemmy.ca 4 points 17 hours ago

In the Church of England, God's authority is channeled through the monarch, similarly to how in Catholicism it is channeled through the Pope.

If you make a new deal with Him, you can get Him to give you different rights.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 41 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is amazing what Trump does to distract from the Epstein files.

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 22 hours ago

some on reddit allegedly had him shot, to make him stop talking about releasing the epstein files.

[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The saddest thing about it all. MAGA already blaming Dems. No one knows anything about the shooter or motive. But it's the Dems fault

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 22 hours ago

wanna bet MSM will drop kirk like a fly, once the shooter is RIGHT winger.

[–] kylie_kraft@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It doesn't matter who the shooter was, or what their actual motive may have been. This was the line before the bullet was fired. Now it's up to the regime to issue swift and disproportionate reprisals, probably against pre-selected targets: trans people, universities, blue cities, etc.

[–] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Duh 'cause it happened at a college! Only them dum libruls go to college so it the dems for sure!

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[–] LavaPlanet@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He's even promoting shooting people who try to take your rights away.

[–] jballs@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He ~~'s even~~ was promoting shooting people who try to take your rights away.

Fixed that for ya.

[–] jumping_redditor@sh.itjust.works 2 points 13 hours ago

even in death his message remains clear, as does his hypocrisy

[–] mechoman444@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The man lived and died by his words.

@mechoman444 @jballs Liberals do not understand integrity. So many are laughing because he died by one of the very rights he fought to preserve. The truth is, I don't think Charlie would change his stance on the 2nd Amendment today, if we could ask him.

What he said was true. You drive cars and there are accidents and intentional homicides regularly. Why aren't you fighting to get cars off the streets? Kids die from alcohol poisoning. Let's get rid of alcohol. Use your brains, people. #liberal

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 22 hours ago

he grifted by his word, and died by his grifted words.

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[–] MaliciousKebab@sh.itjust.works 66 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

When the real life is so absurd, the shitposts are just posts. Anyway dude had it coming.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

I was about to comment on how no-one ever actually uses the 2A to do any good but then I gathered from context that I've slept through half a news cycle.

Fkin a

[–] icelimit@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What a terrible person to not miss.

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 76 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's always interesting when they use expressions like, god-given rights. That's not how it works. A right, in the US, is a privilege that has stronger legal protections. That's all. It's definitely not given by anyone other than the US government.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (7 children)

In the united states these rights are seen as given by a higher power and administered by the government. With the belief that if the government fails to administer them individuals may pursue them by other means

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[–] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 79 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don’t really agree with much about anything this guys says but at least he’s willing to commit to what he believes and leads by example.

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[–] hardcoreufo@lemmy.world 405 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Nah empathy is for the weak.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 129 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Well fuck. Now I have to actually have empathy for his death or he will get what he wants. 😭

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 151 points 2 days ago (15 children)

have empathy for his children, who didn't ask to be born into this

and uh I guess that's about it

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[–] surph_ninja@lemmy.world 295 points 2 days ago (50 children)

I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.

He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.

That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.

[–] luyapapi@social.friendcraft.club -1 points 9 hours ago

@surph_ninja @jballs How exactly did Charlie Kirk "terrorize" anyone? It was just words, dude! Dramatic much? Charlie Kirk engaged in dialogue. He welcomed conversation, even when he disagreed. He was killed because he called out the lunacy of our culture.

I feel like I am living in the story of The Emperors New Clothes and the people who actually call out the stupidity are being made fun of...and killed now. You need to get a grip on reality.

[–] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

materially supporting state violence

Dingdingdingdingding.

Here's the winner, right here. Fascist fucks want to go around pretending that only billy clubs and bullets and bombs count as "violence." Inflicting mass starvation on people, withholding medical care, stealing workers' wages they depend upon to survive, and brutalizing minorities and marginalized groups (oftentimes with actual up front physical attacks) is "just doing business."

So news flash to the chucklefucks: That's not how it works. State sponsored violence is still violence, and so it follows the oppressed have a right to defend themselves. It sure sucks when the shoe is on the other foot, don't it?

But it turns out there's an easy way to defend yourself from that sort of thing. All you have to do is not be an evil and hateful fuck whose policies and actions threaten the lives of others and their right to exist.

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[–] python@lemmy.world 58 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Did he ask chat gpt?

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[–] phoenixarise@lemmy.world 112 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (8 children)

I guess some people can change.

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 3 points 20 hours ago

I wonder what was going through his head at that moment.

oh right, the shockwave.

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[–] x4740N@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (7 children)

It's my birthday today so hearing about it is one of the best birthday gifts

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Charlie Kirk died defending the 2nd Amendment 😂

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[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Wikipedia editors already 'was'ed all his 'is's 😂

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Great foreshadowing too.

Earlier this year, Utah passed House Bill 128 allowing people to conceal carry firearms on university campuses. One of the campuses where conceal carry was now permitted is, of course, Utah Valley University, where Charlie Kirk was visiting today. He was sitting under a tent with the slogan "Prove Me Wrong".

Immediately before the shooting, he was taking questions from the audience:

“Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” an audience member asked. Kirk responded, “Too many.”

The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

“Counting or not counting gang violence?” Kirk asked.

Then a single shot rang out.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/conservative-activist-charlie-kirk-shot-at-utah-valley-university-event-spokesperson-says

It's unfortunate that he's ineligible for the Darwin Award because he leaves behind 2 very young children and a culture warrior wife, because otherwise he'd be a great nominee for the 2025 Darwin Awards. Normally to get a Darwin Award someone has to directly kill themselves. But, I think in this case we could have make an exception for someone who was a cheerleader for gun rights and was sitting directly under a banner saying "Prove Me Wrong" when he was killed with a gun.

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