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[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 54 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

It's disturbing how normalized speeding is. It goes beyond normalization. I've had people get furious with me, flip me off, tailgate me aggressively and literally try to run me off the road for driving the speed limit.

It's especially stupid in the city. People get all pissed at me for driving the speed limit and maneuver recklessly around me before speeding off, only to get stuck at the red light a block ahead. I could feel smug as I pulled up beside them a moment later, that is if it weren't for the disappointment and frustration I feel with how stupid people are behind the wheel of these speeding death machines.

I can't think of any other law we have where a significant proportion of society seems to be actively hostile towards those who care to abide. Why do we accept this as a society?

[–] m0stlyharmless@lemmy.zip 6 points 3 days ago

So many drivers don’t understand average speed. It’s ridiculous.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I have lived in places where the speed limit is very obviously around 10 mph too low for the road's engineering and surrounding environment, consistently. Consequently, there is truly no one during busy times doing the speed limit.

This gives police the ability to pull over anyone, at their discretion, with direct legal cause (not even the "immune from consequences in practice" kind). Even driving the speed limit creates a hazard and merits intervention according to the law.

The place I'm describing was very racist, driving while black was absolutely unofficially illegal, and this lets cops pick and choose in all the worst ways.

Be deeply suspicious of any law that is routinely broken by everyone for years with no change - it is to allow arbitrary, bigoted enforcement.

[–] kossa@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

the speed limit is very obviously around 10 mph too low for the road's engineering and surrounding environment

How does that work? Like, even on the broadest highway I could drive 5 mph without my car or the highway taking damage from it?!

[–] Obi@sopuli.xyz 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It's a real thing, road design has an inherent "natural speed" where most drivers feel comfortable, not too quick, not too slow. In the Netherlands if you get a speeding ticket there is a chance that you can successfully argue in court that the road design invited you to drive faster and get the fine annuled. When that happens the government will ask the company responsible for that bit of road to add traffic calming measures like bumps, or obstacles you have to go around that slow you down. Highways are an exception though.

As an addon, those private companies responsible for the roads have to abide by certain design philosophies made by the government, and they are legally responsible for the safety of the roads, if someone dies and it's found to be due to the road design, or its state of maintenance for example, they can be charged massive sums of money.

[–] PolarKraken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Most drivers with experience can tell by how a road is constructed (materials, bank angles on curves, etc.) roughly how fast they can safely go, and there's a subconscious mental tug to get up to that speed. Whether you personally are impacted by that or not, it's a well-known phenomena.

When everyone on the road, most far less thoughtful than yourself, are experiencing that mental tug, traffic moves naturally faster than the posted speed. And then that gives probable cause for our racist police to pick and choose who to fuck up.

[–] Inkstainthebat@pawb.social 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

It's more so psychology. There's a few videos floating around YouTube by creators like Not Just Bikes that explain the concept, but in short most people are going to drive a speed that is comfortable for them, and that is dependent on the size and design of the road, which means the best way to make people obey the speed limit is to use narrower roads and the best way to make people break it is to design wider straighter roads.
This is what they mean by the speed "speed limit being too low for the street". The speed limit may be an amount but the speed suggested by the street design itself pushes people to go faster

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I'm a bike commuter and it's this by a lot. I've had assholes swerve into the bike lane because they're salty I'm not traffic like they are, and punish passes are ridiculous. Dude, I'm doing 20 on my ebike, the speed limit is 20, you're an asshole.

I'm a school bus driver and I obey speed limits religiously (and somehow I'm almost alone in this among my coworkers despite the fact that our buses all have GPS monitors installed and our boss can see exactly how fast we're going at all times). Almost every day I have people behind me blasting their horns at me for this. Like, just imagine getting road rage at a fucking school bus driver.

My favorite thing is when they tailgate me, apparently oblivious to the fact that I can't see them at all when they do this, not even in my mirrors.

[–] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 17 points 4 days ago

It's ridiculous how acceptable people think it is.

I have someone I work with that seems to think the faster he goes the more important and busy he is, therefore he can treat everyone else on the road that follows the rules like they are just retired old geezers with nothing better to do.

It's infuriating. There is nothing I hate more than people with no patience or ability to plan ahead and leave at appropriate times.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah we are not a culture that can have cars safely.

cant think of another

Say 'genocide bad' in public. I dare you.

[–] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 5 points 3 days ago

Say 'genocide bad' in public. I dare you.

They will agree with you but say that what’s happening in Palestine isn’t a genocide

[–] HulkSmashBurgers@reddthat.com 8 points 4 days ago

People react the same way when you don't make a right on red.

normalize avoiding vehicular homicide

[–] VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 70 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Driving the speed limit at all times regardless of mood. Because I value my safety as well as the one of others.

[–] tamal3@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

But what about the "I'm late for work" mood 😥

[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 18 points 4 days ago

the few minutes speeding saves you wont do any meaningful difference

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Don't leave late. Lobby your politicians for sensible transport infrastructure (i.e. not just cars)

There is no excuse, but people normalise the hell out of it

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 82 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I drive like an old bitch.

I ain't got ticket money. You'll find me in the right lane. Running the speed limit. Like an old bitch.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 29 points 4 days ago (9 children)

Same

I mean, I could afford the ticket, but I'd rather spend that money on LEGO

[–] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Friend of mine just told me about a new 9000 piece death star. Gonna cost like $1000.

He's already planning for it around his yearly bonus at work.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My wife wants me to buy it for our wedding anniversary next month

[–] Zwiebel@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Broke: My wife doesnt let me buy legos
~~W~~Broke: My wife demands I buy legos

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 days ago

Everyone in the comments talking about speeding and I'm here like.... Yeah, that be my day most days.

We've normalized the pain and suffering of modern working life so much that people see this shit and go "oh yeah, speeding is X, y and z" and completely skip over the part where life is a crushing, depressing, and neverending loop of torture.

Yay?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

One crime at a time, save that crime for something good

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social 36 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Cruise control so handy.

Set to the speed limit and chill.

If people want to pass that's their problem.

Mind you, in Australia the speed limit is usually followed pretty well.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Mind you, in Australia the speed limit is usually followed pretty well.

That's because Australia has realistic speed limits. The US doesn't, and thats why people drive over it all the time.

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[–] StickyDango@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not sure about the Hume since I haven't driven it in years, but I regularly do the Western Highway, and WOW the fully loaded B-doubles are aggressive af. You could be going 20kmh about the limit and they're still riding your ass. The only time they slow down is in the towns. There are way too many deaths on that highway.

I have been pretty lucky with the roos not jumping out in front of me, but I've had birds and emus. They are not fun.

I just pull off and let them go, but here in the New England they seem to be speed limited and rarely get above 105 so generally it's only speed limited roadwork zones that they get hyper.

I prefer to sit on about 85 as I'm a bit older, and it saves a fair bit on fuel, but will do 100 if someone comes up behind and I can't duck off. Just have to be a little more alert at that speed, watching for potholes etc. Watched too many avch videos hehe.

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[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 41 points 4 days ago

Me using my phone on the bus after a hard day, knowing I don’t have to pay attention to shit on the road: 😌

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago

"when things are so bad you start obeying traffic laws as if you give a shit whether or not you'd kill some kid today."

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Me with a 30 second commute from my desk to my bed:

:( -> :)

[–] howrar@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

30s commute? You live in a mansion or what?

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago
[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 9 points 4 days ago (3 children)

On one hand, I think speeding is wrong, but on the other am I happy that these people help finance police operations.

(If you drive over the limit in Switzerland, you will get caught and you will pay and also the police are not evil (at least from what I've heard))

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[–] kSPvhmTOlwvMd7Y7E@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

No idea what this is supposed to represent

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago

It's literal rather than representative

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[–] kautau@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

it’s been a hard day making TikTok posts so I’m gonna drive around in my luxury car ~~without my seatbelt on~~ and film with my left hand and maybe probably not hit anyone while I check if the angle looks good

[–] Fleur_@aussie.zone 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Very obviously wearing their seatbelt

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[–] socsa@piefed.social 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Broke: driving the speed limit because you are tired.

Woke: driving the speed limit because you are a responsible citizen who wants to make the roads safer.

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[–] KoboldCoterie@pawb.social 15 points 4 days ago (4 children)

At least where I'm at, I think it's more dangerous to drive the speed limit on the highway than to go 10 over, just because of other drivers. Driving the speed limit makes many other drivers lose their goddamn minds and drive insanely unsafely just to get around me. It's wild the things people will do just to get to their destination a minute or two faster.

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[–] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I've been driving Uber for awhile and I adopted grandma driving for my own sanity/safety.

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