Damn those moralists and their checks notes good governance.
The entire game is set in a Moralist-controlled deindustrialised slum area where drug abuse is rampant, and almost everyone lives in abject poverty.
The creative team are all Estonian leftists/Marxists who lived through the 1990s. It’s clearly what they draw on - the absolute devastation of global capitalism.
No, you don’t understand! That’s the fault of those union thugs!!
but have you dumb commies considered that the *price stabilitié* is fantastic now? Didn't think so. Maybe if you actually attended an EPIS meeting you'd understand why you can't just fix problems and improve your local living conditions.
(Note: I don't understand either but I am paid to to pretend)
Damn those moralists and their checks notes good governance.
The Adults In The Room have Made The Hard Decisions and Got Shit Done 
Also the large building that used to be full of thriving small businesses is destitute and nearly abandoned except the one dice maker lady. You can literally pick through the remains of the failure of capitalism that has left only a husk of itself behind.
And yeah, nearly every NPC in the game is living in poverty, is angry all the time, or has resigned themselves to quietly suffering
The whole setting is cope and seethe by commies about how based globalism is.
You can't talk to a person like this, what can you possibly say to someone who goes "I love bombing a country into perpetual poverty and exploitation where children listen to snuff radio and do drugs, thats so based" except 
They keep mentioning how Joyce and Kim are helpful to the player as representatives of liberalism, but Evrart and Measurehead are antagonists as representatives of socialism and fascism. And they're saying the devs accidentally made liberals seem more agreeable this way.
Yeah no shit the liberals are more polite to Harry, he's a cop. Evrart is trying to impede the investigation? No shit, Evrart is organizing a strike and you're some dumbass cop working with a lady who's on the board of directors of the company he's striking against.
And they're saying the devs screwed up by showing communists as murderers or ineffective? That's the point, that building communism is hard, mistakes are made, and Harry's bias as a dumbass alcoholic cop is going to color his perception of the world. I hate these libs so much. I thought liberals were supposed to be media savvy but they completely miss the point
I thought liberals were supposed to be media savvy but they completely miss the point
They consume media that makes them feel media savvy, especially when Adults In The Room Make The Hard Decisions and Get Shit Done in such media. 
This is on the devs for making the communism vision quest not mandatory, but the game literally has a character turn to the screen and monologue about how Communism is the only ideology that promises a better world is possible for each and every human being and that struggling for it is worth it even if you fail or are killed.
Meanwhile the fascism quest is all about how cope is destroying your life and ability to relate to other human beings, the moralism side quest has you fuck around with dumb bullshit that doesnt matter and almost gets you kidnapped by the state, and ultraliberalism is memes.
The whole setting is cope and seethe by commies about how based globalism is.
Imagine reading The Jakarta Method and come away with thinking it’s about how based ~~Sukarno~~ Suharto and the CIA are.
its Suharto, Sukarno was the guy that got couped
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who mixes their names up.
A fascist is just a liberal who understands how the sausage is made.
i like how they think the moralists or ultralibs or w/e faction they think they are is the best choice
the world around the player is in utter decay as a result of said factions
cant make this shit up lmao
the world around the player is in utter decay as a result of said factions
Gestures wildly at the real world and 
Someone with some insight might take away something from the fact that their preferred ideologies are both absent and omnipresent from the actual characters of the game.
The prime rep for ultraliberalism is a cynical billionaire whos company has just sent in a fascist death squad to resolve a labor strike, and anyone else who might be described as an "ultraliberal" in the game are literally on the shit tier of society either grifting for scraps or just completely delusional.
And moralisms prime rep is a literal occupying warship, followed by a bureaucrat who bullshits you about the economy while secretly engaging in sexual relationships with someone living in a filthy decaying slum, and finally Kim who deliberately refuses to engage in any serious politics and therefore doesnt really count.
Edit: Just remembered Trant, whos technically listed as a moralist on the wiki I guess but whos also an apolitical coward more than anything, and a crypto-social democrat.
The actual people of Martinaise are neither ultraliberals nor moralists, makes you think huh?
Someone in that thread was specifically praising the Sunday Friend lmao
The Kingdom of Conscience will be exactly as it is now. Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth.
Wow cool airships!
"See? Moralism is BASED!"
Dolores Dei best girl
r/neoliberal praising war criminals. Sounds right.
the mass murders are highly contested by contemporary scholars 
Globalism
I'm torn on whether this person has a vibes-based vocabulary or is dogwhistling
I think its just "oh u mad?" type vibes, the bad people talk about globalism therefore globalism is based now.
evergreen
Cw:ableist jokes
This is bringing out something that occurred to me the second time I played the game and met Joyce. She really is the liberal of the game.
When you meet Joyce early on, she is, at that stage of the game, one of the most directly helpful NPCs. She talks to you respectfully instead of (rightfully) calling you a pig, she makes jokes with you, she's even willing to discuss reality with you, and some of her most likeable lines come out during that little philosophy talk. She's got an education, and she clearly likes a deep conversation. She even shows that she has a little perspective on her position in the world, and she has some sympathy for the failed revolution and for the conditions that necessitated it. Wow what an intelligent and reasonable mature woman she is!
Try and ask her for money, though?
NOPE
And also shes a board member of the company that hired a fascist death squad that has literally literally no experience outside of committing gruesome sexual and physical cruelties on colonized peoples, to "deal with" a workers strike.
She's very sneaky about her responsibility and involvement in that stuff, its easy to overlook while she makes jokes about being a great wyrm upon a hoard of the worlds wealth or something, what that actually involves.
Right, it's why introducing her early is so effective. Like most people, Harry wakes into a world order established by people like her, and if you literally only take her and the world at face value, she just seems like a proper lady, when she is actually a key player in the horror of it all
while she makes jokes about being a great wyrm upon a hoard of the worlds wealth
Lots of liberals think that by "ironically" embracing what monsters they are that it makes them less monstrous.
Thesis: Ask her for lots of money 
Antithesis: Don't ask her for money 
Synthesis: Ask her for just enough money to cover repairs to the Whirling In Rags room and a stay for the night 
Lmao, in an entirely on brand move, they're completely ignoring
spoiler
the Pale
But can it make me money?
The pale is just an externality. The right thing to do is to tax it so that the market can regulate the Time Void That is Slowly Swallowing the World and keep its growth steady.
That entire post is full of gems.
On Stellaris:
On Fallout 4:
On Victoria 3:
Yeah, in the late game you basically need Council Republic because the Investment Pool contributions get artificially nerfed the larger your GDP gets. And nerfed in such a way that the capitalists money just disappears into the void it doesn't recirculate. So you want to have as few capitalists as possible then. Capitalism so good it suffers from it's own success.
The problem with capitalism is that it makes the investment class too rich. This shows that capitalism is actually an extremely good system with no flaws. 
>it's r/neoliberal again
PPI has been around since 1989 and views itself as Bill Clinton's "idea mill" aka think tank. Why I call them a fossil fuel think tank is detailed here. They oppose climate action, defend fracking, and receive donations from Exxon Mobil.
it's safe to say that their upvotes are farmed, and their organic support is mostly bourgeois economics and political science majors and interns who hope to work for PPI or a similar think tank one day. It's basically a Neera Tanden farm.
The creator of r/neoliberal, Colin Mortimer, is the Director of the Center for New Liberalism at PPI, which seeks to "develop a salient identity around the center-left values that have increasingly come under fire in this age of populism."
Me, listening to the Sunday Friend: "yo this MF spittin"
"The Coalition believes in the importance of informing the public about the benefits of ze price stabilité. Transparency is one of our principles. Would you like an informational pamphlet?"
Me: Ahh yes, price stability.*
(Does not get it at all.)*
it's incredible. they're almost self aware
What was up with the Innocents in the game? (Like Dolores Dei.)
I get the idea that their importance was inflated but does the game actually talk about them in detail? I found the bit in the church where you can learn about their history after looking at the glass portrait but I never got anything that cuts through the facade so to speak.
I don't think the game goes into it particularly much but the Innocents can essentially see the future and then implement the shit they see there, like a global reserve currency or interisolary travel
This makes the Pale grow faster and it's implied that Harry is a Magpie, someone who's not as powerful as an Innocent but can still see things in the Pale that show him glimpses of the future (like Revachol getting nuked)
It's the dunk tank.
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moment.
"You're not an ultraliberal Harry. Get the fuck out of here."
