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[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 123 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This might actually be a decent idea, especially with scammers using AI-assisted voice changes.

[–] massive_bereavement@fedia.io 63 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Yep, this very common in Japan, especially for elder people and it is recommended to have said word or phrase.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

German has a word for it: Enkeltrick

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

well thats silly now we can all impersonate any German

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[–] Sybilvane@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn't be surprised if German had a word meaning German has a word for everything.

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[–] Olhonestjim@lemmy.world 67 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (3 children)

Not the worst idea when the most likely scenario is a phone call from a scammer using an AI voice clone to demand random money.

[–] mavu@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

exactly this. Mother in law got one of those calls not long ago.

Having a codeword sounds stupid now, but might be normal in a few years.

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[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

"honey, you know we're broke tell the kidnappers I love you and dinner will be ready at 645"

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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 52 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

With AI deep fakes being used for ransoms, this actually isn't a terrible idea.

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[–] EndOfLine@lemmy.world 45 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like something a clone would do immediately after assuming the life of the original, in case the original ever escapes and tries to reclaim their life.

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 44 points 2 weeks ago

What makes you so certain that it was your husband and not a clone or doppelganger trying to confuse and distract you while setting fire in the house?

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 29 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Having code words is good opsec. We had one as kids decades ago in case a stranger tried to pick us up.

"Your mommy is in the hospital and she sent me to get you."

"What's the code word?" No code word, find someone in a uniform or with a name tag.

This is kinda like the whole "What would you do to prepare for a zombie apocalypse?" The answer is the same for a lot of emergency and disaster prep but more fun.

[–] Vex_Detrause@lemmy.ca 12 points 2 weeks ago

With AI that can replicate your voice or any voice this is a good plan .

[–] GreenShimada@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

It's more prevalent in Latin America right now, but with the ease of being able to clone the voice of someone that posts on social media, virtual kidnappings are a thing that aren't going away. So the codeword is actually very relevant today.

[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Mine was mentioning a problem with a car they don't have as code for help.

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[–] Damage@feddit.it 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I just installed GnuPG on my family members and have them cryptographically verify their identity

[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 19 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Reading my public key out loud before every sentence can be tiring, but it’s the only way we can be safe!

[–] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Oh hey Alice, how you doing? Anyways,

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Should only be necessary if one of your family members looks away. Should save you a little bandwidth.

[–] moopet@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

This is the first thing I'd ask my family to do if I was already the doppelganger.

Lmao that's what I was thinking too. The real husband is far less likely to think of needing a codeword than the imposter is, and the imposter's best bet is to draw the family attention to the possibility first and alienate the original.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 22 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I have heard this in context of a kidnapping and asking a question only you will know the answer too.

The best solution to tell an imposter is by talking about a shared memory but changing some obvious details. You proof you are you by knowing the specific memory, they proof who they are by calling out the wrong detail.

Of course in context of a full clone, they would also have your memory and no amount of planning will help.

[–] xylol@leminal.space 11 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I always worried about something like that because I have a terrible memory

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[–] JimVanDeventer@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

When I was in a very young grade at school, an announcement came over the speakers. It was something intentionally meaningless, like “just a reminder that so and so will be presenting tomorrow”.

My teacher jumped up and closed the window shutters. We were all counted and escorted to the gymnasium. Turns out that message was a coded code silver kind of thing and there were people with guns on the school grounds.

Nobody was harmed; not students nor teachers, nor gun-people, nor police. There were contingency plans in place and practiced and they worked marvellously. I look back and find it kind of neat.

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[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

legitimately a good idea to have a code word with your kids so theu can tell an adult you have sent for them from a kidnapper.

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[–] itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like something a cyborg doppelganger would try to do

[–] shneancy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

easy, just say "what if the doppelganger sets fire to the house? we need a plan for that"

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 7 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Is a fire something you need to plan for? "Get out" feels good enough for me.

[–] notabot@piefed.social 9 points 2 weeks ago

As @takapapatapaka@tarte.nuage-libre.fr said you want plans for how to get anyone vulnerable out, how to secure valuables (if, and only if, safely possible), where to meet (really important for kids, especially as you may have been incapacitated). But you should also know things like; how to shut off the gas (again, only if safe), where the door keys are so you can get out if they're locked at night, which upstairs windows you can jump from if the stairs are blocked and which rooms have solid walls and door to act as a refuge if all else fails. CPR training could save a family member's life, as could basic fire escape or rescue training.

Basically, imagine you wake up at 3am to the sound of your smoke alarms, the fire is already well developed and smoke is starting to fill the house. What do you need to know, or have planned, to get you and your family to safety in the next few minutes?

[–] GeriatricGambino@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Yes you do need to be prepared. If you're inside a fire and even if it just started a few minutes ago, the ashes and black smoke will get so thick you will barely see an arm's length in front of you, and there will be complete opacity 2 meters in front of you. Also people can panick and make bad decisions, I've seen two people freaking out over a fire extinguisher "not working" because they were too scared to think straight. I've had to show them to slow down, read the instructions on the sticker, follow the steps and then empty the can. Fire drills and preparation will probably save your life if you're ever in a fire, and it may even help you save other people's lives.

Securing persons (young children, elderly, or disabled people), pets, or critical objects (health related stuff, maybe a box with important papers or family belongings) can require a bit of planning. Also good to know where to head to once you're out, especially for kids if fire happens when they're alone. But yeah, for most people, "get out" is probably enough.

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[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

But do you have a code word you never told anyone that you can use to recognise yourself from the future or from a parallel universe?

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it's spaghetti

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, it's spaghetti

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[–] normalexit@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I like that she didn't share the word. Smart.

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[–] happyfullfridge@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm assuming the clone has your memory including the code, otherwise you can just tell a shared old memory

[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

You do not seem to understand how cloning works. Tbf: neither does OOP's husband

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[–] udon@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What if that "husband" was already an impersonation of the real husband, so next time they meet both of them they can claim they are the real husband and tell the code word as proof?

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[–] cuerdo@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

That is exactly what a doppelganger would propose, you already lost.

Now your real husband will never be able to reach to you again.

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 weeks ago

the code may also be useful in more realistic current near dystopia scenarios of receiving a phone call that appears to be from family member. AI/Live voice impersonation is current tech.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago

I mean, a fire escape plan? "Go outside, away from the fire." I feel like any kid capable of remembering a code word could figure that one out on their own.

Now, the threat of doppelgangers? That's something a family isn't going to be ready for. Because they're too busy wasting time with fire escape plans. This is smart.

[–] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

That actually sounds like a great way to spice up real safety planning to keep them interested.

[–] Omega_Jimes@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

The correct response is for the daughter and wife to agree on a second code word when the husband is being a pain, and insist that he's not real.

[–] The_Decryptor@aussie.zone 6 points 2 weeks ago

It makes sense, never know when somebody is going to try to impersonate you for any reason. That's why I told all my friends and family that the best way to know I'm the real me is if I say my codeword "chariots".

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