Slop.

tankies offer them a sense of community

You know what's an even bigger community? The hegemonic ideology of liberal imperialism. It's literally the biggest community in the (Western) world.

using the word tankie at all is such an online thing i get second hand embarrassment

I don't actually see a problem with this statement. I myself have said that describing it as a pretty heavy handed crackdown is fair in the past as opposed to a "genocide". They most certainly did carry out excesses too.

What matters is whether you recognise that's better than the western approach to extremism spreading within muslim communities - killing or indefinitely detaining them. China's model for handling this extremism was clearly better.

the uyghur genocide is something that exasperates me.

send me some fucking proof. i can't believe we got an almost orwellian dystopia in gaza and even that's producing irrefutable proof. satellite images of entire neighbourhoods leveled.

somehow with uyghurs libs are always shifty when it comes to proof. endless huge text and msm articles about how bad it is, but never a single credible picture.

you can't deny the Uighur genocide, it would have to exist for it to be something a person can deny

I popped in to read that thread and it's wall to wall people being called tankies for the most minor pushback. Something like "sure, fuck tankies, but surely we can all agree that what's happening in Palestine is clearly worse though" will be heavily downvoted with an essay reply from pugjesus. This is fantastic, I hope this keeps happening until there's nobody left in the in-group. If even a tenth of those people end up more amenable to socialist thought after the experience of being tossed outside the wire, the obsessive liberals will have done us a huge service. Like in every piece of dystopian fiction where people are banished from The City on suspicion of being sympathetic to Wasteland Rebel Group, only to end up a lot more sympathetic after being thrown into the wasteland themselves. Reminds me of that cliche about how we create our enemies, then they arrive.

I hope the most anticommunist power users never shut the fuck up about tankies, I hope they tell more ridiculous stories based on more and more tenuous connections that invite obvious critique, and i hope they get more paranoid and vindictive in response to that critique. I hope they fully depart reality and alienate every well-meaning liberal who has the temerity to question their urban legends about the scary cryptids who believe in human flourishing. I hope every one of them turns into Jack D. Ripper and triples down on tankie cockroaches rehtoric. I wish them all a very merry Detroit: Become Hitler and I'll be there with open arms and a big smile to greet the nice people they drive off.

Goddamn, we got .world, .db0, MeanwhileOnGrad, and tankijerk all at once? That's some quality slop right there.

I always said it was only a matter of time before the social fascists that call MWoG their home would turn on even dbzer0. It’s the classic Nazi bar, they outright fabricate info, erase context, welcome Zionists and other fascists, it was only a matter of time before they got even greedier and started attacking anarchists for being “tankies.”

It’s not a coincidence that they call us “roaches” or “d-s,” it’s because it’s a cryptofash meeting spot.

Oh lemmydotworld, never change. Your liberalism is a hell of a show.

Dotworld, if you hate the idea of online communities so much, you're free to stop existing at any time. You're the biggest Lemmy instance after all, I'm sure it would show quite the example.

The news media said it's real. Left-liberals believe the news.

It's as simple as that.

Nothing you say or share — no matter how compelling — can change their minds (unless their faith in imperialist media is shaken).

Now they're just admitting "tankie" doesn't mean anything.

I’ve seen multiple dbzer0 users, including two admins, do complete 180s on tankie bullshit

People can learn when they listen.

Edit: I just read the screenshot. They didn't even do a 180. They said China was being "authoritarian" to the Uyghurs. All they said was that Israel is doing worse.

lol

Adrian Zenz has struck again

What are the chances that any of those people have ever talked to an actual Uyghur living in Xinjiang and gotten their thoughts and perspectives on the matter? I mean, I know liberals would rather tokenize them for their own ghoulish agendas than to actually listen to a minority and treat them as equal individuals, but still.

It's tiring to go over the evidence again and again, but if someone could post the master post for any lurkers that might be curious?

I don't know why you're bothering to talk or recruit some of these people. At best, they're radlibs that have an outright hatred for everything we believe in and are completely mentally cracked by neoliberal paradigms or at worst they're literal Nazis in shepherd's clothing.

I get it, it's always important to bring more people into the fold. But I think you would literally have better success trying to recruit people at the grocery store or even a table at a park than on this libnest. There's no point in trying to defend any integrity and honor when they don't see any of it and consort with those that use literal fascist terms such as calling us "roaches" and dehumanizing us while championing the causes of the liberal hegemony that churns out scales of death far worse than anything they could convict the "Tankies" of or who we support in their fragile minds.

They are completely decided in commitment to the hegemony and I remember when I had opinions like theirs on "authoritarian leftism". It honestly took a friend who was into ML and some genuine criticisms debunked against nations like China or the DPRK. Mostly, it was that I understood that the west and it's hegemony has caused far more destruction and death to the human condition than any of the states they disparage for "statism" on a ivory pedestal made up of non-existent material examples (Or ones cut short by their own idealism).

America doesn't need you to love it, it just needs you to hate their enemies.