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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

I'm from some country in the EU. We have a saying, half joke, half serious: You aren't truly successful living abroad if you have to come home to fix your teeth. I guess it holds some truth.

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 25 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Canada too!! Because apparently teeth and eyes aren’t part of the body for universal healthcare. Luxury bones indeed.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 14 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's always been so insulting. When you're a kid and a teenager you can have the government's insurance and then your parent's insurance. But as soon as you are an adult that starts working minimum wage without any social advantages, you have to pay for the expensive dentist out of pocket. So lots of young people that are relatively poor will pass the beginning of their adult life without dental insurance, and avoid going there.

And if they're lucky and evolve into the job market, they can eventually find an employer that offers dental insurance! With any luck they won't spend more than a few years without insurance. Otherwise if they stay at minimum wage, they can also keep paying out of pocket, because it's certainly not their retail job that will offer dental insurance.

No, I'm still not bitter at all about this experience. /s

At least this supposed to change eventually, thanks to the NDP.

[–] ghost_towels@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 days ago

I was lucky when I was cooking at a bar that the surfer/painter dentist down the road would let you pay in payments. Everyone at the bar went to him. He did good work too.

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

The moment robotic and/or 3D flesh printed limbs get viable, sewing back your clean cut limbs will be a luxury too, with "economic" options of fake limbs that can be put on the stump, since "you can always just ask your boss very nicely to give you a call center job instead".

[–] shittydwarf@sh.itjust.works 55 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Obviously they are luxury bones you should pay to enjoy

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And dental insurance SUCKS.

I had a dental plan at an old job that was 24 dollars a pay period, and the annual coverage limit was $500.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I have “good” dental coverage that claims to pay a decent percentage of costs, but it’s of “reasonable and customary costs”. We live in a high cost of living state and it’s just not reasonable. They never seem to include the bus ticket to Mississippi to find someone willing to do it that cheaply.

….. as a parent paying for yet another set of braces where insurance covers “up to 50% of reasonable costs” or more realistically about 20%

[–] DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Girlfriend and I just paid about $10k to fly out to Costa Rica to get her a full set of crowns. Easily would've been $40k to do it in the States. Another good looking option was to drive to Mexico.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I am planning a move to San Antonio, and the biggest determining factor for me has been proximity to Mexican dentists. I have fucked teeth. My bottom wisdom teeth came in laying down like battering rams and crushed the back 4 teeth on both sides, completely destroyed them. I had no dental insurance and no ability to pay out of pocket, so I just had to deal with the pain. My mom managed to find a dentist to prescribe me Vicodin while it was happening, but that was the extent of what we could get done. Since then, I've had several abscesses because of it, and had to have several removed. I still need a few removed and implants or something. I brush my fucking teeth, I don't understand what the problems are. But I'll be happy to be near to cheaper dentists.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The type of food you eat can determine your mouth's bacteria biome, which none of us had any fucking way of knowing, other than pure chance.

Streptococcus Mutans trives on refined sugars that are available to us in modern times. They create a biofilm around your teeth that traps the bacteria itself, along with it's acid byproducts.

They eventually wear down your enamel, and other bacteria start feeding on the softer dentin within. The acidic environment kills off the original Streptococcus Mutans bacteria.

[–] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Isn't that why we brush our teeth, though? Like... What am I doing wrong? At this point I wish I could convince a dentist to pull all of my teeth, including the healthy ones, and give me dentures. I'm 34, and I don't smile, I don't eat out with friends, I don't do anything that may show my teeth, because I'm missing a front tooth and I look like some cartoon hillbilly. I hate it so much.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago

You probably just won the bad teeth lottery. Other than that, coffee and other acidic foods also wear out teeth.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 2 points 2 days ago

Correction: you can have veneers over your rotten teeth.

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (4 children)

I think this is also worldwide

In Italy healthcare is Free but dental isn't included.

In my city there's a free service for dental emergencies but it's open from 8 am to 8.30 am so that means if you didn't camp outside the door at 3 am it's already full

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Hungary used to be just like that, but it lead to people dying of complications, so it had to be undone, but not for replacing teeth, because that will surely lead to children eating sweets instead of fruits, and of course adults won't buy Brandname™ electric toothbrush and toothpaste (it lead to people in general avoiding dentists like the plague due to "fear of having your teeth pulled with no way of replacing them").

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[–] gjoel@programming.dev 32 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Honestly, it's the same in Denmark.

[–] ViatorOmnium@piefed.social 27 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

Dental health is the one medical speciality where access to healthcare in Europe is almost as bad as the US.

On paper, most European countries include it in the universal health, but in practice it either only covers doing the bare minimum on life threatening conditions or there's only one dentist in the public healthcare system per million people.

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[–] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 4 days ago (4 children)

I'm literally looking forward to having 8 teeth pulled this month because A. at least the pain will go away B. They're putting me under general because the several extractions I've had before this traumatized the shit out of me.

I could also share the story of paying $800 for a root canal and temp crown then losing my job before getting the perm crown. The remainder of that tooth was extracted a year later for $350.

Paying $1150 to lose a tooth radicalized the fuck out of me.

[–] Lawelen@fedia.io 12 points 4 days ago (2 children)

When my tooth started rot, the pain was so severe that I tried to pull it out with my hand. Now I am eating only on left side of my mouth. Hope left teeth won't die...

Been there done that. Was pulling rotted roots from a broken tooth the other week...had my surgery set but my x-rays were 6 months old, shit had deteriorated and surgeon agreed with me that a new exam was warranted. That meant the surgery was delayed and I get to deal with the pain for longer and likely get more pulled.

I legitimately want them to pull everything. I'd rather deal with full dentures until I can afford implants. My teeth have always been sensitive and I will absolutely fuck my tongue up probing at partial denture wires.

Just today I had two new chunks fall out. The first time I bit down on a chunk of tooth scarred me, but the day I realized I was used to it broke me a bit.

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[–] valek879@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

Recovery from General is kind of rough but I think it's the only thing that my insurance would cover too. I had all the work in my mouth done at once under general for 8 hours. The follow-up 4 hour procedure was done under IV sedation where they give you fentanyl.

That stuff is a miracle. It feels easy on the body, like I woke up and could semi function after a couple hours instead of two or three days later from the GA. I didn't feel or remember anything. And while I was nervous because in my previous experience I really like opioids, there is no lingering wish to go to the dentist for more really expensive drugs. Heck, I don't remember any of it.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Not a doctor, but I guess it depends on the case, the anaesthetic used and so on. As a kid I had to have a primary molar pulled out and it hurt like hell with local anaesthetic. Recently I had all four of my wisdom teeth pulled out and I didn't feel a thing during the procedure (also with just local anaesthetic) - it only hurt for a few days afterwards while the wounds were healing.

[–] UniversalBasicJustice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

My red-headed mother passed down the gene mutation (melanocortin- 1 receptor) that causes resistance to lidocaine and other local anesthesia. Made for some rough dentist/ortho visits as a child. The pain afterwards is pretty negligible but when the lidocaine wears off mid-extraction it's fucking rough.

[–] kamen@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Didn't know that; interesting to learn. Hope it hasn't caused too much problems.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Same in Australia, the only political party that does support having dental as healthcare and funded nationaly (The Greens, by taxing billionares) don't get enough votes to legilsate it.

Australian's are happy with shitty teeth and allowing billionaires to have all the nice teeth.

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[–] brap@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

Same with the UK. Chewing and vision are classed as premium live features for some reason.

[–] eelectricshock@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Amerikuh fuck yeah! 🇺🇸

[–] Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net 24 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Wisdom tooth came in. Killed my rear molar. It's still in there, rotting out slowly and half disintegrated.

Can't afford an extraction. Guess I have to suffer not being able to fully open my jaw, constant pain from the rotting tooth, with the bonus of it potentially getting infected and finally putting me out of my misery.

Fuck capitalism.

[–] GrabtharsHammer@lemmy.world 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If there's a dental school nearby you might be able to get it done cheaper at their clinic.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago

I had a wisdom tooth go fucky on me. 'Impacted' - thing was fucking sideways, and rotted out. A nightmare, couldn't chew on my right side at all. Was lucky enough to be living in a blue state that offered dental for Poors(tm) when it happened - they were willing to cover an impacted tooth at the local hospital. They jabbed the world's biggest needle into my jaw, and yanked it out. Didn't feel a thing at the time (other than the needle, which was like getting jabbed in the bone), though I spent the next month in agony once the anesthesia wore off.

They wouldn't let me take it with me after they extracted it, said it was a 'biohazard'. Wish I'd pocketed it anyway when they weren't looking.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Give up sugar. That will make a HUGE difference. The sooner you do it, the better for your overall health, including your teeth.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

What about my mental health ?!

[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Where I grew up, we called them "luxury bones"

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 3 points 3 days ago

Oh don't worry. As I recently discovered, you can finance dental work now.

[–] doingthestuff@lemy.lol 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Or good genes. I haven't been able to go to the dentist in 25 years and I still have them all, and no tooth pain.

[–] pepperjacques@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I went to the dentist for the first time in my 35 years on this planet. Didn't go last year after one of my molars randomly broke because it didn't hurt. Went earlier this month because the molar below it was bleeding and there was pus. I now no longer have wisdom teeth, still have that broken tooth, and am 1400 in debt for an extraction. I make 1200 take home on a good month. Love that.

All this to say, keep taking care of your teeth and hope you don't randomly get an infection.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have health insurance through work that specifically covers dental and I still had to pay about $900 for two fillings. If I had something serious like needing a root canal I might as well just sell them my kidney.

[–] knacht1@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

40 + years of taking care to go to the dentist, and still lost molars to decay and periodontal disease. Don't chew tobacco!

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