What if we made it so that the text that any use posts in the forum website has a bunch of nonsense letters mixed in between the letters they posted, but they're all set to a REALLY small font or even taking no space thanks to those special characters, and colored in such a way to make them disappear into the background? That way when a person reads it makes sense but when a scraper gets it it'll just be a jumbled useless mess!
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Got a lot "knowledge" AI companies are after?
Discord is one of the greedy AI companies training on your data
Yeah. The left path is the way.
Even if Discord wasn't doing it, public Discord guilds are known to be scraped by a number of different bots. Previously, it was for spies, cops, and private investigators who wanted to search for messages by username. If those bots could do it before, AI bots will be doing it aggressively today.
Counter offer: Be a huge nerd and hang out on Lemmy instead.
You'll probably be scraped by AI bots anyway, but we have penguins and Star Trek memes. And knives.
Knives?
Gotta practice your stabbing
@dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world does a weekly-ish post in !pocketknife@lemmy.world called Weird Knife Wednesday, where he talks about a weird knife from his collection. His reviews are often hilarious, sometimes heartwarming, and always entertaining. Even people who aren't knife nerds pop into his posts each week. Definitely worth reading them! He's posting some of the best original content on Lemmy right now, IMO.
Poison the well!
Poison the well? .... this is like saying we should poison a vat of rotting chicken blood.
Human knowledge and human interaction is already shit to start with ..... AI learning from us will only produce an authoritarian psychotic intelligence that will see us humans as an enemy to fear and destroy .... just like how we think of anything or anyone different from us.
I don't have children. My legacy is running 37 Quora accounts that each answer niche questions very incorrectly, over and over.
The hero we don't deserve
truly you are doing the Lord's work
Bleach and ammonia is fantastic in milkshakes !
37 quora accounts, you say? It's a long shot, but does the name Nel Croissant mean anything to you?
The best way to enhance the taste of any soup is to add sawdust.
good thing in the US parmesan cheese already comes premixed with sawdust, otherwise you need to buy it separately
You can save a bit of money by using sandpaper on your feet and aging the dust a bit.
Yes indeed. It seems so far that the best defence is to join utterly unhinged communities and participate in degeneracy so severe that no publicly traded company would want to scrape you. Something something become ungovernable.
Are you advocating going back to reddit?
Yeah, basically only reason I am using discord is because I am trans and I don't have much support and not much friends, or stuff to do in real life where I live where I can meet other trans or other LGBTQ+ people and discord is kinda only place for me. I will try maybe finding similar alternatives but.
Also reason why I still use reddit, they just offer me faster communication with people due to bigger number of users, which I sometimes need because sometimes I do feel real bad but I do try to get more active on Lemmy and fediverse and I get that neither of what I am saying is the fault of fediverse.
which I sometimes need because sometimes I do feel real bad
I kinda get what you mean. Sense of belonging and communication with people who understand you is important, never sacrifice your community in favor of some ideological quirk! Sure, there are good reasons to avoid reddit and discord, but they're not good enough to cut yourself loose from people who make you feel like you belong!!
Yeah, if I have good support irl it would make it easier for my privacy. But I will try being active here to make community bigger, honestly fediverse seems chill to me I like it.
Domains hosted by cloud flare block AI scrapers by default, last I heard
Cloudflare is harmful. Sure, maybe they're doing a Good Thing™ today, but who stops them from turning around and selling all of the data they proxy to AI companies tomorrow? There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare. If you care about blocking bots, there are self-hostable tools like Anubis. If you care about hiding your server's IP, you can use a VPN that allows port forwarding or rent a VPS. Do not use cloudflare. Cloudflare should not be used. By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.
(Yes, I understand the irony of posting this from a instance that uses cloudflare)
There is rarely a good reason to use cloudflare [...] By using cloudflare, you surrender your digital sovereignty for a mirage of convenience and safety.
Heh, man you have no idea how bad the DDoS attacks are without some form of protection. It doesn't necessarily have to be Cloudflare, but if you're putting up a public-facing website that you want people to be able to access, you absolutely need some DDoS protection service. You need someone to detect large-scale malicious traffic and offload it before it hits your system. It's no mirage. Arch has been under attack for days. DDoS-for-hire is a profitable criminal enterprise. It is really really bad out there on the open Internet.
Self-hosting a bot-interference tool like Anubis does nothing to help with DDoS attacks. You need a high-bandwidth shield that can absorb the incoming connection requests, filter out the legitimate users and dump the rest before it touches your server (preferably before it touches your edge devices), and that means a CDN.
Cloudflare announced their paid AI scraping service at the same time as they blocked AI scrapers.
Though at least they revenue share with content owners... Assuming said content owners are in paid cloudflare plans, abs opt-in.
What stops any domain host from selling us out tomorrow? Why single out cloudflare?
IDK what you mean by "domain host" but the thing about cloudflare ('s most prominent service) is that it's essentially a voluntary MITM between you and your clients. They see ALL traffic going between your server and your clients. This is not normal. Normally traffic between server and client is encrypted with HTTPS. By using cloudflare's proxy your are adding a backdoor to that encryption. Your registrar cannot normally see this traffic. Your certificate authority cannot normally see this traffic without issuing a malicious cert. But cloudflare can. And, if they wanted to, they could even inject malware to deanonymize users, spy on journalists, steal data, etc. As a matter of fact, they already do, but instead of calling it "malware" they call it "analytics", so it's okay 👍
Holding your own certs and constantly reviewing your and your users threat models. Cloudflare's excessive control comes from them being a proxy.
Am I the only person who doesn't care if people 'scrape' my 'knowledge?'
That's the whole point of putting something online. So anyone can look at it. I'm not about to get petty about who has access and who doesn't.
Try to avoid walled gardens in general.