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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 101 points 1 year ago

It's clever propaganda.

Not only does it smear the protests, it terrifies Jews into migrating to Israel.

... well it used to. I don't think the propaganda is hitting the same anymore.

[-] RamrodBaguette@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago

Major props to JVP, IfNotNow, and all the other Jewish diaspora orgs in the West that took a sledgehammer to that narrative.

[-] Todesschnitzel@lemm.ee 25 points 1 year ago

Right?? I am anything but antisemitic, but I dislike the way Isreal handles its conflict.

But media portrays it as such. But not being jewish I don't know how the issue handles for them in their private life.

[-] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

Judaism isn't a nationality or an ethnicity. It's a religion. Jewish people don't have any reason to 'handle' what's happening in Palestine any differently than anyone else UNLESS they're a fascist.

[-] jack@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

Judaism is definitely an ethnic group as well as a religion. Any sociologist would accept that.

[-] Zodiark@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago

Perhaps in the United States.

However, while being Jewish is a religious identity, it's also an historical, ethnic, cultural, and experienced identity. e.g: There are many Jewish people who've never practiced Judaism that still identify as such to themselves and by their societies, and not just the Euro-American ones.

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

And if you talk about the media's portayal of antisemitism you're also accused of antisemitism.

[-] daisy@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago

... well it used to. I don't think the propaganda is hitting the same anymore.

I've wondered about this lately. Can any Jewish people living outside of Israel comment on what they're seeing among friends and family about trends in rates of emigration to Israel over the past few decades? I'm particularly curious as to how gen-Z Jews feel about it.

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

Anecdotal but I found out one Gen Z American I know who had recently gotten Israeli citizenship and lived in Tel Aviv. Hadn't seen him since highschool but he was posting the most insane shit like "1000:1 Palestinians to Israelis is the price."

[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 96 points 1 year ago

Imagine if protests of this size were happening in China. The west would have a field day.

[-] save_vs_death@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

it's over for xi, the walls are closing in

[-] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 55 points 1 year ago

I went to one with a couple of thousand people even in the small city/large town near me. How widespread they are is genuinely uplifting.

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

It would probably result in a policy changing which the West could not possibly comprehend happening che-smile

[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 82 points 1 year ago

Do they even realize how many Jews are in the streets WITH the protestors? If someone said they were doing a genocide for MY benefit, I would be disgusted. And why weren't they asking this question every time western fascists like Piers Morgan or Paul Watson open their mouths about "inferiors"?

Westoids go from giggling about how hilarious Adolf Hitler was for doing a genocide against Jews, but them are the first to give out lectures on antisemitism when someone takes issue with a bunch of kapos trying to exterminate Muslims.

[-] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 year ago

Its safe to say that zionist jews do not consider antizionist jews as jews.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 31 points 1 year ago

Do they even realize how many Jews are in the streets WITH the protestors?

All self-hating.

[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 24 points 1 year ago

Just like white people at a blm protest. "Virtue signalling white saviors" because you're supposed to stick to your tribe apparently.

[-] barrbaric@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

I'd say it's 50/50 that they do know and are consciously trying to push the talking point that opposing Israel in any way is anti-semitism.

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 66 points 1 year ago

smartest zionist propaganda: please leave the UK where you have to worry about ... solidarity demonstrations... and move to Israel, where we are currently getting our asses kicked by insurgents

[-] Sephitard9001@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Holy shit a protest? I would much rather be safe on the frontier where I'm standing between angry Palestinians and the IDF soypoint-1

[-] dumpster_dove@hexbear.net 57 points 1 year ago

The "They want to hunt me for sport??" meme incarnate

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

How are Jews meant to stay in the U.K.?

Like they normally do.

Although fascists like her should immigrate to Israel by trying to swim the English channel

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 year ago

trying to swim the English Channel

But what if she succeeds and becomes Fr*nch?

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

That's the Frogs problem now lmao

[-] Nationalgoatism@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

The French make them try to immigrate to Algeria by swimming across the Mediterranean

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 51 points 1 year ago

I shouldn't be, but I'm constantly surprised by the amount of mask off anti-Semites who keep repeating implicit or explicitly that "Israeli=Jew" or "Zionism=Judaism" (both of these are incredibly anti-Semitic. In fact I'd argue that Zionism IS anti-Semitism made into an actual, actionable ideology as opposed to just pure bigotry ie "here, we cleared a land for you. Now, go! We don't want Jews here! [in US and Europe, etc]")

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The anti-anti Semites are anti-Semites.

[-] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This sentence is hurting my brain

[-] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

You have people who believe they are combatting anti-semitism but are instead reinforcing it. The anti- anti-semites are anti-semitic

[-] Kanda@reddthat.com 50 points 1 year ago

Don't you know it's anti-Semitic to not actively celebrate genocide?

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Free parking

[-] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

How are ~~Jews~~ pro-zionists meant to stay in the UK?

I mean where else are pro-zionists supposed to go? You think THIS is bad, just wait'll I tell you how many more people are protesting genocide and persecution in Palestine itself!

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

I suspect this guy considers the same remedies appropriate.

[-] ProfessorAdonisCnut@hexbear.net 28 points 1 year ago

Pretty sure most of these people would be thrilled for Jews to stay in the UK rather than move into the homes of Palestinians who were ethnically cleansed

[-] iByteABit@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

I really really wish every time I see an idiot like this that they're a bot, but some of them surely aren't. It makes me irrationally mad to think how fucking detached from reality you must be to say shit like that in public (or in the internet at least)

[-] Self_Hating_Moid@hexbear.net 19 points 1 year ago
[-] Trainguyrom@reddthat.com 8 points 1 year ago

Never again*

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