Memes about the Fediverse.
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I'd imagine gatekeeping based on a percentage of FOSS used isn't going to win many hearts and minds in the long run for our communities. Imagine if the Linux community decried using the Steam Store on FOSS operating systems.
If the tool is best for the job, people will use it. Our role is to make FOSS that tool in each category.
Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.
I don't think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.
IMO that's the very reason why the FSF failed to gain significant traction over the years. Using a 100% libre device is HARD, even if you really want to. But yeah, gatekeeping is never gonna be helpful to push people towards better habits...
However, I would politely disagree with the "best tool for the job" argument. I believe that FLOSS software is an inherent quality, and that some degree of trade-off is acceptable, and even needed if we want to further promote it. Like, is Darktable worst than Lightroom? Sure, but it's an awesome piece of software with minimal trade-offs for most people, so I think it's still meaningful to promote it above a potentially better software for the job, feature-wise but that requires to give up all freedom to Adobe.
Eventually that limit of acceptable trade-off is matter of personal choice, and again, it sound silly to gate-keep people on the Fediverse for that...
Yeah I love Lemmy and I love that people aren't afraid to be extreme on here but sometimes it's exhausting that it's just so omnipresent. It's like there's a whole lifestyle associated with Lemmy. And some people really take it too far. I think there's a balance to be struck between being full of normies vs being all extreme all the time.
I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.
It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.
Obviously a personal choice, so noone should be giving you shit about it, but I moved all the people I want to talk to onto Deltachat/Signal/SMS (in order of my preference), that works perfectly fine and I havn't found someone who is opposed to all of those options.
Moving your 1-on-1 chats is one thing. Moving political organising, sports clubs, social clubs, and your various group chats is something very different.
It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally
Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.
I have had lots of meme ideas, some even made it into production, before ultimately deciding to shelve it because it was on a topic that wouldn't have been very welcome.
Like a meme on Amazon being late yet again (if I were to order from Amazon, not saying I do! 😅) or something. Or a meme on how sometimes I use AI and it's actually helpful (Again, not saying I do! 😅(I want my threadilawyer)) LMAO
It can catch you off-guard with how some people can react towards a certain topic. I would be in big trouble if I said I think self-hosting is a lot of work. Then there's users from instances with unique rules enforcing them in neutral spaces. I was told by a Reddthat user to not post too many articles at a time. They have a 5 article limit rule per community a day.
Cool if I quote you in my email to Linus torvalds and the pope?
I think self-hosting is a lot of work
Dbzer0 is pro ai
sure but like. if you moderate a comm here and wants a chatroom, please spare me from discord.
Why do people think they're entitled to some sort of validation for their poor software choices? No one is being banned or blocked just for not using linux or for using discord. People are free to disagree with your choices- thats not gatekeeping.
I use discord extensively. I've been on lemmy for over a year. Heck, I'm on a server that got pulled together in lemmy. I've seen a lot of complaints about discord, but nobody's actually ever condemned me for using it.
Let me be the first one. It has nothing to do with FOSS or decentralization, I just think it's a shit software.
You should gatekeep Discord because it fucking sucks
The issue is that so many amazing groups are using it. I wish they would use matrix/xmpp instead.
I'll take "Things that don't happen" for $2, Alex.
I will take Cinny any day over Discord. I just wish the matrix protocol was more reliable since sometimes there are issues with joining rooms and you cant always see the messages in the encrypted group chat.
Matrix here too. I can't (and don't) force others to not use Discord but for the things I set up I can choose Matrix instead.
There's a critical need for more public servers than just matrix dot org though.
no but fr. we need a better alternate than the matrix and XMPP protocol, theyre both too buggy. I use them but fuck its annoying sometimes
I'm sorry but... what is FOSS? I'm new here.
FOSS = Free and Open Source Software. Open source means the source code of a program is available for anyone to view, and free (as in freedom) means the community can contribute to it (this is an oversimplification). FOSS software, like Lemmy, is not owned by a company and as such the software is (usually) developed for the benefit of everything rather than for maximum profit.
Free open source software
why would you care what a few hundred nerds think at all?
the fediverse is big and diverse, find a place where people aren't weird about shit (or are your kind of weird)
discord is an evil spirit and i am anti-discord puritan ᗜ‸ᗜ
javascript bloatware with pop-up advertisement for you to buy nitro-shit to post glowy animated stuff
Meh, block and move on, I use Discord to game with friends, we have used a Mumble server in the past, but Discord was just easier and had a better chat.
Though I will absolutely admit that I am missing the sound quality of Mumble