discord is an evil spirit and i am anti-discord puritan ᗜ‸ᗜ
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this post was submitted on 08 Aug 2025
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I use discord extensively. I've been on lemmy for over a year. Heck, I'm on a server that got pulled together in lemmy. I've seen a lot of complaints about discord, but nobody's actually ever condemned me for using it.
Let me be the first one. It has nothing to do with FOSS or decentralization, I just think it's a shit software.
Afaict, it doesn't really have any major competitors. No, if I have to self host, it's not a competitor
I agree. I just think the reason it doesn't is because it doesn't need to exist. Seriously, 100% of its usecases are better served by something else.
Um. As a simple place for a group to chat and communicate via text?
Is it better than Signal/WhatsApp for that?
Signal / WhatsApp are messengers, they're meant for 1 to 1 or small groups. They don't handle large groups well, for which you want things like rooms, roles, moderation, etc. Different niches.
Ah, so large groups specifically? Fair enough
Yeah, I run a hobby club with like 200 members in discord. Handling that in WhatsApp or signal would be such a pain.
Discord's great for that. But so many games and software are using it instead of forums or proper issue trackers now. It's a pretty serious downgrade.
Yeah I get the downside of those. But I find it weird how so many people blast discord when it's just about the only option for simple modern text based chat groups
It reminds me of MIRC but if MIRC was soulless and made you pay to do the "fun" stuff like change colors and script things.
I still like pIRCh better
I'll take "Things that don't happen" for $2, Alex.
Why do people think they're entitled to some sort of validation for their poor software choices? No one is being banned or blocked just for not using linux or for using discord. People are free to disagree with your choices- thats not gatekeeping.
sure but like. if you moderate a comm here and wants a chatroom, please spare me from discord.
I'd imagine gatekeeping based on a percentage of FOSS used isn't going to win many hearts and minds in the long run for our communities. Imagine if the Linux community decried using the Steam Store on FOSS operating systems.
If the tool is best for the job, people will use it. Our role is to make FOSS that tool in each category.
Yeah, and in terms of usability Discord alternatives are really quite substantially behind Discord in terms of functions.
I don't think the same is with Reddit and Lemmy/Piefed. The distance is not so vast.
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IMO that's the very reason why the FSF failed to gain significant traction over the years. Using a 100% libre device is HARD, even if you really want to. But yeah, gatekeeping is never gonna be helpful to push people towards better habits...
However, I would politely disagree with the "best tool for the job" argument. I believe that FLOSS software is an inherent quality, and that some degree of trade-off is acceptable, and even needed if we want to further promote it. Like, is Darktable worst than Lightroom? Sure, but it's an awesome piece of software with minimal trade-offs for most people, so I think it's still meaningful to promote it above a potentially better software for the job, feature-wise but that requires to give up all freedom to Adobe.
Eventually that limit of acceptable trade-off is matter of personal choice, and again, it sound silly to gate-keep people on the Fediverse for that...
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why would you care what a few hundred nerds think at all?
the fediverse is big and diverse, find a place where people aren't weird about shit (or are your kind of weird)
You should gatekeep Discord because it fucking sucks
It's not like there's any actual alternative with decent UI that doesn't require self hosting or a subscription.
element? it has its fair share of criticisms tho
Giving Up on Element & Matrix.org
Yeah, I looked into it at some point but it does not look suitable for big groups that include non techies.
Yeah I love Lemmy and I love that people aren't afraid to be extreme on here but sometimes it's exhausting that it's just so omnipresent. It's like there's a whole lifestyle associated with Lemmy. And some people really take it too far. I think there's a balance to be struck between being full of normies vs being all extreme all the time.
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I had some dickhead coming at me the other day on Lemmy for not having completely erased Facebook from my life. As though that's a remotely reasonable thing to expect everyone to do.
It's not like making a personal decision not to use Amazon or to install Linux. It's a social network. It's literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally, unless you want to cut yourself off from people you care about IRL and from real political organising.
It’s literally not possible to make the decision unilaterally
Sentiments that would be completely incomprehensible 20 years ago.
Eh, it's not that different from the way humans have always been. Maybe you didn't like drinking in the 19th century, but if the local pub is where all your mates meet up to hang out, then the pub is where you go.
based on the replies it's incomprehensible to some people right now 😂
I did it. There's plenty of other ways for people to get in touch with me.
there's one right there!
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I have had lots of meme ideas, some even made it into production, before ultimately deciding to shelve it because it was on a topic that wouldn't have been very welcome.
Like a meme on Amazon being late yet again (if I were to order from Amazon, not saying I do! 😅) or something. Or a meme on how sometimes I use AI and it's actually helpful (Again, not saying I do! 😅(I want my threadilawyer)) LMAO
Dbzer0 is pro ai
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