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Published date: 7 August 2025 11:52 BST

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu rejected calls from senior ministers to advance ceasefire negotiations and deliberately restricted all aid to Gaza in order to force a surrender from Hamas, internal government transcripts published by Israeli news outlet Channel 13 have revealed.

The transcripts from an Israeli war cabinet meeting on 1 March show that Netanyahu ignored repeated calls from senior defence officials to move to the second phase of the ceasefire agreement in order to secure the release of Israeli captives, and then to renew hostilities after.

Netanyahu instead chose to unilaterally break the ceasefire in March and bar all aid to Gaza, in the hopes of forcing a surrender by Hamas.

This was despite Hamas complying with the talks, contrary to the war cabinet’s expectations.

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[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

Again, Netanyahu is a genocidal maniac that should be tried in Neurenberg and sentenced to death there just to make the fucking point.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 1 points 3 minutes ago

He needs the Mussolini treatment

[–] Awkwardparticle@programming.dev 3 points 36 minutes ago

I think you mean The Hague, that is where the ICC court is.

[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 56 minutes ago

Was this ever in question?

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

He needs to be hung for crimes against humanity.

[–] carlossurf@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

Why dont israels population vote this dictator out

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 42 minutes ago

Answered your own question, I think.

[–] shane@feddit.nl 2 points 1 hour ago

Netanyahu is a terrible human being but an amazing politician.

In Israel all governments are coalition governments, and as Netanyahu got less and less mainstream support he tacked further and further to the right, joining with crazy religious fundamentalists because that was the only way to stay in power.

My understanding is that very shortly after losing power he will end up in court on corruption charges, and maybe die in prison. Not because of crimes against humanity, but for crimes against Israel.

[–] Baked86@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Remember everybody, jizzrael started the ethnic cleansing in the forties with the nakba https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 14 minutes ago

Right after the Holocaust.

There are many other countries with similar examples

It's almost as if human beings, from any and all races, are always controlled by a small group of assholes who like nothing more but to have power at any cost

[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 28 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Of course it is, Benjamin Netanyahu is a damn war criminal. Gaza is becoming one big Nazi death camp.

[–] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I would love to see him starve to death while the world watches so he would know what he is causing

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 1 points 22 minutes ago

I'd keep the livestream playing constantly.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 41 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Lots of news from the 'no shit' category lately

[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 1 points 57 minutes ago

Source: eye balls

[–] QueenHawlSera@sh.itjust.works 67 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (3 children)

It pisses me off, it's what all Israel's supporters say.

"Oh it wouldn't be necessary if Hamas didn't make them do it."

It sickens me that they believe any group of people to be such non-persons that it's justified to treat them this way..... These are human beings and what's happening to them is not cosmic accident or common misfortune. They're being tormented to death, by people who revel in causing pain.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 35 minutes ago* (last edited 34 minutes ago)

This is the end stage of the "War on Terror". We've fully internalized anyone with a Muslim faith (or with a skin tone associated with a Muslim faith) as a terrorist. Elderly civilians are simply terrorist who never got caught. Children are future terrorists. Everyone in between is a "Military Age" threat to national security.

In the same way that Africans in America are correlated with criminals and gangsters, East Asians are marked out as academic cheats, Hispanics are labeled as lazy welfare queens, and the LGBTQ cohort are regularly called pedophiles, Arabs are de facto scary religious radicals. Killing them is no crime. It's always some form of self-defense.

[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 14 points 10 hours ago

There's no excuse for war crimes, no justification for crimes against humanity. NONE

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 37 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

The Nazis said similar things when "liquidating" the Warsaw Ghetto after the Jewish resistance mounted an uprising.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The Resistance to the Oppressor is used to justify the Oppression itself.

[–] bitjunkie@lemmy.world 11 points 8 hours ago

What do you think is going to happen in America the first time someone peels one at an ICE operative?

[–] pirrrrrrrr@lemmy.dbzer0.com 30 points 15 hours ago

W A R - C R I M E S

[–] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 110 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

Netanyahu and a disturbing amount of others see all Palestinians as Hamas. They aren’t starving civilians to death to pressure Hamas. They’re genociding all Palestinians on purpose because they don’t see them as human beings. It’s unspeakably horrible, and it’s being silenced.

The mainstream is hoping that when all Palestinians are dead or displaced they won’t have a voice to object.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

see all Palestinians as Hamas

Despite opinion and anger here, there's a lot of truth to that. Imagine seeing your friends and family brutally murdered, or your friend shot in the kneecap as sport for some IDF fuck, and then saying you don't support any kind of resistance.

And that sentiment, punctuated by Oct 7th, makes Israelis afraid, somewhat reasonably. The people they've oppressed will always be inclined to strike back. The people they're genociding would be even happier to genocide Israelis.

The point is that there is no protagonist in this fight. There's nuance and no easy answers.

None of that justifies the very clear and deliberate genocide Israel is carrying out. It was extremely clear this was their plan when they killed the World Central Kitchen people. They've planned this genocide, knowing exactly what they're doing and the consequences.

It's the nation-state equivalent of a schoolyard fight where one student pulls a knife and slashes the other's throat. It doesn't matter how the fight started, or what their motivations were at the beginning, we don't stand for that kind of brutality. You have a right to defend yourself, but that is very clearly beyond justifiable.

I feel like the people speaking out for Palestine are often making the same mistake DARE did with drugs in the 1990s. You can't make everything black & white, even with kids. The program would have been more effective had it acknowledged nuance and been more truthful.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Not that I think it's a big difference. It might be impossible to stop the genocide regardless of our approach here.

Public sentiment here doesn't compare to the anti-Vietnam War sentiment, and I don't think changing the messaging slightly is going to change either that or the overall outcome.

I'm proud of the people who have put themselves at risk to speak out, the ones who face real world consequences like Mahmoud Khalil.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 5 hours ago

Most (nearly all) of the "pro-life" crowd is like this in the US.

Nobody paying attention is surprised. Evil people.

[–] Keyboard@lemmy.world 4 points 11 hours ago
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[–] modernangel@sh.itjust.works 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

At this point, who didn't already know that displacing (if not erasing) non-Israeli Gazans was the plan along?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

And Netanyahu's government has made plenty very similar on-the-record statements ever since it came into power.

[–] Der_Mann_mit_Hut@feddit.org 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

Hamas doesn't surrender and 90% of the inhabitants of Gaza starves to death? WIN! Now you can "mop up" the remains and occupy the region with near to none opposition.

Hamas does surrender? WIN! You can claim a historic victory, jail every Hamas member that come forth and occupy the region with near to none opposition.

On a psychopathic level devoid of any ethics it is genious...

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's not genius at all, at least not on the basis of "winning". There is no "winning" this conflict without a political solution, and there is no political solution without full rights for Palestinians.

Netanyahu is judging that the world will let him get away with genocide as long as he does it slowly. If he actually genocides Palestine, he won't have a problem any more.

[–] Der_Mann_mit_Hut@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago

Well... there is a winning situation for Israel (and i assume they are moving in this direction): No Palestinians, no further problems.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 9 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

If there is no armed resistance in Gaza, Israel can "mob up" without any difficulty.

The reason why many intelligence and military people now voiced concern is not because they care about the lives of the Palestinian people, but because Gaza is a nightmare to conquer and occupy. Hamas and other armed groups are very creative and had decades to fortify Gaza for another invasion. For instance a lot of the explosives they use for their traps are unexploded ordnance from Israeli attacks.

Israel in large part used to blow up buildings in Gaza with US made anti-tank mines. They move to use the D9 armored bulldozers instead, because the fighters could capture significant stockpiles of mines and use them to blow up Israeli tanks. Now the bulldozers are easy targets for sniper fire and explosive attacks. Israel seems to rarely send in soldiers on foot, instead relying on heavily armored troop carriers that end up becoming sitting ducks and targeted with self made rocket launchers, shaped charges or having an explosive dropped in the often open hatch. There even was a video of fighters using an artillery rocket by simply laying on the ground and triggering the charge so it would fly forward towards a target.

Israels army hasn't fought a proper war on the ground for many years. Most soldiers are just used to pushing around women and children in the Westbank than to actually fighting against an armed opposition. The key strength of Israel is its airforce. But bombing things to rubble only gets you so far, as the US and NATO have seen in Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Yemen...

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

While true, are there enough Palestinians left in Gaza to mount such a resistance?

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

You don't need many people to make it hell for the occupiers to occupy. The Sunni "insurgency" in US+allies occupied Iraq was estimated to have about 3,000-7,000 fighters. Meanwhile the US had up to 160,000 occupation soldiers staged in Iraq around 2005-2006 before slowly giving up against the resistance.

This is also why Israel aims on building concentration camps. It makes resistance much harder to organize than if people still have their own homes, have jobs and can meet without direct surveillance.

[–] Luouth@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago

Because it wasn't obvious enough how much of a cruel psychopath this man was

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 40 points 18 hours ago

If you consider food a weapon, you have lost your humanity, and you will get no sympathy or support from me.

[–] SpoonyBard@lemmy.world 32 points 18 hours ago

Was it ever a question that it wasn’t on purpose?

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)
[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 8 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

basically holdomer, like what russia did with ukraine.

[–] andxz@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Holodomor, and the details are not quite the same. The end result will be though, if anyone survives at all this time around.

[–] Ghyste@sh.itjust.works 17 points 18 hours ago

Least surprising revelation ever. It's easy to have such ambitions when you don't consider an entire population people.

[–] LMurch@thelemmy.club 12 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Did he starve Hamas? Or did he starve Gazans while Hamas leaders were unaffected, accessing food as they wish? I think we know the answer.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 13 points 14 hours ago

Contrary to the Israeli claims there is no evidence of Hamas stealing food.

The video Israel published of the last moments of Yahya Sinwar showed him fighting on the front lines and until the last moment. Releasing that was very stupid from a propaganda perspective as Israel itself proved its claims about Hamas leaders hiding in tunnels and being well fed to be lies.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Hamad leaders are dead

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