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The vast majority of Israelis say they are not troubled by reports of famine and suffering in Gaza, a new poll released by the Israel Democracy Institute shows.

The survey shows that 79 percent of Jews in Israel were not troubled, or troubled at all, whereas 86 percent of “Arab” respondents were somewhat or very troubled by the reports about the war on Gaza.

The survey was conducted between 27-31 July.

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[–] chosensilence@pawb.social 96 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

yeah a nation of mostly Zionists would think that, wouldn't they?

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 65 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (28 children)

A nation of mostly fascists. Zionism is about the creation of a religious nationalist ethnostate through genocide.

It's pure unbridled fascism, and Israelis have been indoctrinated to believe it's okay when they do it since birth, as has a significant proportion of the Jewish diaspora. That's why the genocide continues, and why Israel is the most dangerous threat to Jewish people since Nazism.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 24 points 3 weeks ago (7 children)

Not quite. Zionism is about creating a secular nationalist ethnostate through genocide, with religious dressing simply as a way to get more religious Jews on board. It's no coincidence that early Zionist leaders were all unapologetically atheist.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 12 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

I think there’s been a pretty significant divergence from the original Zionist leaders to modern day Zionism. The seeds were there, obviously, but things have deteriorated even further in the past few decades.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 51 points 3 weeks ago

Dehumanization of the enemy is part of what enables genocidal actions.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 49 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, poll after poll has shown this. Israelis by and large are behind the genocide. They're okay with it they approve of it and they like it. They're not being forced to murder an entire people. They're gleeful about it.

[–] ZombieMantis@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago (16 children)

Sick, fascist country. They need to be occupied, reconstructed, and de-nazified.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 32 points 3 weeks ago (23 children)

Honestly, even just being allowed to sink or swim on their own would have prevented this. They've grown brutal and callous because the US has shielded them from any consequences of that.

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[–] itisileclerk@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Gaza genocide denials are new holocaust denials.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (4 children)

When I went to Israel last time I was genuinely surprised how many zealots there are. Most Israelis you meet outside of the country are just normal people but Israel itself is still full of mentally deranged. Religion is a hell of a drug.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 23 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

If you really mean Israelis outside of Israel and not just Jewish people, that's probably just code shifting. They know their opinions aren't acceptable outside their bubble, so they keep quiet. It's the same way a white supremacist will talk differently if they think any random white guy shares their views vs when an imposing minority is in the room.

[–] SoleInvictus@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 3 weeks ago

My long-time ex was Jewish, can confirm. They were alright but their zionist relatives absolutely dropped some fucking bombs (proverbial, probably literal now) during family gatherings. The mildest was the tired old "part of being a good Jew is supporting Israel" ranging up to "Palestinians are subhuman and should be exterminated". Mind, this was over twenty years ago and the situation has demonstrably escalated since.

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[–] TommySoda@lemmy.world 29 points 3 weeks ago

They've been conditioned over the decades to consider them to be subhuman. I'm not saying that they are innocent, just that this is what they believe. Their propaganda is so effective that they no longer feel remorse for killing them as they see them as savages or monsters. In fact, they see themselves as the heroes of the story. And with every western country backing them up and giving them more weapons, what else would they think?

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 3 weeks ago

Israel is a extremely racist nation and Palestinians are just "human animals" and even "vermin" to most Israelis.

[–] misteloct@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 3 weeks ago (5 children)

Remember when the US beat the Nazis? This is exactly like that, but instead imagine we sent the Nazis billions of dollars and weapons to enable them.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 weeks ago

And also became Nazis ourselves.

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[–] RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip 24 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Rephrase the question, "Do you fear the consequences of facing trials after the war, similar to how the nazi enablers did?"

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

That fear depends on a real threat of someone holding them accountable and being able to bring them to trial. Which country or countries would be willing and able to do this? The Nazis were unafraid until defeat started to loom as a real prospect.

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[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 22 points 3 weeks ago

What horrible pieces of shit.

[–] uienia@lemmy.world 20 points 3 weeks ago

Dehumanisation succesful.

[–] suspicious_hyperlink@lemmy.today 18 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Propaganda still works to this day

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Yep. The Nazis were people just like anyone else who gained the consent of the population. We learned nothing.

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[–] magnetosphere@fedia.io 15 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

They’re inundated with propaganda (like we all are), and they can’t face the fact that their own government is committing such horrors. Plus, they just don’t want to think critically about the situation.

None of that excuses them, but simply writing them off as “evil” doesn’t help.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

Writing them off as evil might not help, but understanding that they're fascists certainly does. You can't have peace with fascists until they're thoroughly beat down.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

No, they probably even enjoy those reports.

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes they're demons. We know.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 16 points 3 weeks ago (4 children)

Don't call fascists demons. They're people. Any people can go fascist when the circumstances are right. This "fascists are demons, not reasonable people like us" attitude breeds complacency and an unwillingness to look directly at what fascism is and how it arises and functions, and that's part of the reason fascism has come back to bite us hard.

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Rotten from the roots up

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 12 points 3 weeks ago (28 children)

Israel is full of religious fanatics who would happily kill everyone on this planet. Have you heard of Operation Samson?

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Most of y’all weren’t bothered by the reports of all the bombing, pillaging and starvation the US caused my country, but that’s in the past right? The ancient past known as 1984 but Americans will just say “that want me”

[–] Vupware@lemmy.zip 12 points 3 weeks ago

I live with that guilt every day. I hate imperialism to no end, and I hate that I fund it with my taxes.

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[–] JokeDeity@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (6 children)

Funny, I'm not bothered by Israeli death and suffering either. 🤷

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[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

about half say they outright want to kill every palestinian. Half said no to that, but I imagine for some portion of those if a genocide happened without their explicitely supporting it, theyd be thrilled.

[–] Gorilladrums@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (16 children)

Middle East Eye is a notorious propaganda outlet, especially on this conflict. I would take anything they say with a grain of salt, including their interpretations of polls and surveys. I personally recommend everybody here to actually look at the original source and the same information referenced directly from there. The survey cited in this article is pretty extensive, and I think it's worth taking a look at:

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

So exactly what the article states. Jewish Israelis do not believe mass starvation of Palestinians matters.

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