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that title is pure 
Exactly what I going to say. The US attacks China economically, so China trades less with them, and this is all somehow China's fault.
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Took them long enough
So China has been facilitating every fucking criminal military intervention the US and allies have engaged in for how long?
Better late than never I guess....
What are they doing with all the extra magnets and stuff? Sounds like there should be a lot of unused stock and production capacity now. Real commitment would be to totally redeploy the infrastructure towards other ends. Retrain, retool. Shut or scale back mines. Otherwise what are the businesses doing? They will have to go out of business or find some illicit method to conduct trade.
So China has been facilitating every fucking criminal military intervention the US and allies have engaged in for how long?
I don't think it's wise to play your hand before collecting the winning cards. China has not been in a position to win and throw its weight around until recently. Had it played those cards earlier the US would have pivoted to China earlier and we might be looking at a different history right now where the US actually did something before it was too late.
Otherwise what are the businesses doing? They will have to go out of business or find some illicit method to conduct trade.
The industry is mostly state-owned because they recognise how important it is as a strategic resource. China will prop them up for as long as it takes and absorb any loss into the state.
If any of the rest of the industry struggles, it will just be made state-owned too. But I suspect the existing state-owned companies will absorb the losses for the ones that aren't, allowing the others to trade with everywhere that isn't america.
where the US actually did something before it was too late.
while I personally believe it's too late, we don't technically know it's not too late.
Had it played those cards earlier the US would have pivoted to China earlier and we might be looking at a different history right now where the US actually did something before it was too late.
Hope this doesn't come across as too sectarian, but this is one of the things that does frustrate me about the "anti-Dengist" types (and I'm not trying to accuse or attack anyone with this!), who think that China should've thrown their economic and military weight around like USSR, ignoring the fact that they just flat out had neither of those things until very, very recently, and if China was belligerent and not vital to the US economy, the US would've destroyed them in the 90s, just like they destroyed the majority of socialist states in the world at the time.
Fair point.
Do you think they are planning to actually intervene to deplete the world availability of fancy weapons long term? Or will they return to less restrictive trade once the “cabbage prices” have been "rationalized"?
I do love that idea of China coming in and putting its foot down on all this heinous shit. One thing they could retrain some of the existing workforce to do, would be as the enforcement arm of the "no weapons manufacturing" conditions. The WSJ acts shocked that regulators require photographs of product destination facilities. But I am talking site visits, inspections, audits.
Even they go to areas of worst conflict and collect munition, downed aircraft, drones, to inspect for anything that could be their product. I don't know how CSI you can get with this. Maybe there are certain methods of making the material that's subtly unique. I bet it would be possible to find out in some cases, especially when most people on planet earth compulsively record their every action even when they commit crimes against humanity.
Errors of significant magnitude to be charged under Chinese law and business owners facing extradition for trial.
Scuse the lib fantasy.
Considering that it is not possible for the US and other countries to stop relying on China’s rare earths supply in a short period of time, it’s no wonder that this new round of consolidation is concerning to many stakeholders, especially amid intensified geopolitical tension.
If this was announced 3 years ago haven't the West made any preparations for it? all short term, just-in-time mentality? If this is as important as it sounds you'd think there would be more substantial contingency planning.
allowing the others to trade with everywhere that isn't america.
you think? I don't see that in the WSJ article but perhaps you hear it someplace else?
Do you think they are planning to actually intervene to deplete the world availability of fancy weapons long term?
They are clearly using this lever right now and that's not nothing. I think they're not going play nice with rare earths until they think the US has thoroughly given up on the idea of any kind of violent confrontation with them. That could be a long way off.
I think it's also worth looking up Tungsten, which China controls the majority of the world supply. Essential in weapons. They're not playing nicely with this resource either.
If this was announced 3 years ago haven't the West made any preparations for it?
No the west has fuck all capacity for manufacturing and is ideologically opposed to national industry. No private companies want to step in to try and supply this shit because China can turn on the tap of supply and instantly kill any foreign business by being cheaper. That risk is too high for investors who do not want to compete with Chinese dominant industry, particularly state-owned. You'll see this complained about in the media somewhat but they call it Chinese "subsidised" industry instead of nationalised. They do this because the idea of nationalised infrastructure is actually extremely popular across most of Europe where the principle argument against it is that it is "inefficient". They talk about it in the media using sly language to avoid tipping the proles off that actually nationally owned industry is vastly superior. It would hugely harm the tentative grip on power neoliberal ideology has across Europe.
you'd think there would be more substantial contingency planning.
The machine is ideologically incapable of considering anything other than neoliberal methods. It is has lost its ability to adapt and if it doesn't get it back the empire is genuinely doomed.
The thing is that there ARE smart liberals who warned of many of these things. Kissinger was among them. But the smart liberals who would guide the empire correctly are all shoved out because the only solutions oppose neoliberal methods. The ideology has ossified and pushes out anyone saying anything needs to be done differently.
thanks for the comments very interesting!
It's very interesting how an organisation can get itself into a situation where it can't change itself and acts against its own interests. The end of empires are probably all somewhat like this.
They could save it of course, a civil war among liberals in which a sect that understands the need for change beats the other.
We should also not underestimate the liberals in the world that are not adhering to neoliberalism. Russia is not afraid of state industry and has aspirations to become the leading capitalist nation. Eventually anti-imperialism will cease to be the primary contradiction and the situation that causes our mutual interests to align will end.
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