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Fair point.
Do you think they are planning to actually intervene to deplete the world availability of fancy weapons long term? Or will they return to less restrictive trade once the “cabbage prices” have been "rationalized"?
I do love that idea of China coming in and putting its foot down on all this heinous shit. One thing they could retrain some of the existing workforce to do, would be as the enforcement arm of the "no weapons manufacturing" conditions. The WSJ acts shocked that regulators require photographs of product destination facilities. But I am talking site visits, inspections, audits.
Even they go to areas of worst conflict and collect munition, downed aircraft, drones, to inspect for anything that could be their product. I don't know how CSI you can get with this. Maybe there are certain methods of making the material that's subtly unique. I bet it would be possible to find out in some cases, especially when most people on planet earth compulsively record their every action even when they commit crimes against humanity.
Errors of significant magnitude to be charged under Chinese law and business owners facing extradition for trial.
Scuse the lib fantasy.
If this was announced 3 years ago haven't the West made any preparations for it? all short term, just-in-time mentality? If this is as important as it sounds you'd think there would be more substantial contingency planning.
you think? I don't see that in the WSJ article but perhaps you hear it someplace else?
They are clearly using this lever right now and that's not nothing. I think they're not going play nice with rare earths until they think the US has thoroughly given up on the idea of any kind of violent confrontation with them. That could be a long way off.
I think it's also worth looking up Tungsten, which China controls the majority of the world supply. Essential in weapons. They're not playing nicely with this resource either.
No the west has fuck all capacity for manufacturing and is ideologically opposed to national industry. No private companies want to step in to try and supply this shit because China can turn on the tap of supply and instantly kill any foreign business by being cheaper. That risk is too high for investors who do not want to compete with Chinese dominant industry, particularly state-owned. You'll see this complained about in the media somewhat but they call it Chinese "subsidised" industry instead of nationalised. They do this because the idea of nationalised infrastructure is actually extremely popular across most of Europe where the principle argument against it is that it is "inefficient". They talk about it in the media using sly language to avoid tipping the proles off that actually nationally owned industry is vastly superior. It would hugely harm the tentative grip on power neoliberal ideology has across Europe.
The machine is ideologically incapable of considering anything other than neoliberal methods. It is has lost its ability to adapt and if it doesn't get it back the empire is genuinely doomed.
The thing is that there ARE smart liberals who warned of many of these things. Kissinger was among them. But the smart liberals who would guide the empire correctly are all shoved out because the only solutions oppose neoliberal methods. The ideology has ossified and pushes out anyone saying anything needs to be done differently.
thanks for the comments very interesting!
It's very interesting how an organisation can get itself into a situation where it can't change itself and acts against its own interests. The end of empires are probably all somewhat like this.
They could save it of course, a civil war among liberals in which a sect that understands the need for change beats the other.
We should also not underestimate the liberals in the world that are not adhering to neoliberalism. Russia is not afraid of state industry and has aspirations to become the leading capitalist nation. Eventually anti-imperialism will cease to be the primary contradiction and the situation that causes our mutual interests to align will end.