this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2025
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Fuck AI

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[–] TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 5 hours ago

Sex bots are taking work away from sex workers. Turning genuine sensuality into some kind of horrible mimicry of a genuine connection. How am I supposed to pay my bills

[–] kartoffelsaft@programming.dev 88 points 18 hours ago (6 children)

I believe AI is going to be a net negative to society for the forseeable future. AI art is a blight on artistry as a concept, and LLMs are shunting us further into search-engine-overfit post-truth world.

But also:

Reading the OOP has made me a little angry. You can see the echo chamber forming right before your eyes. Either you see things the way OOP does with no nuance, or you stop following them and are left following AI hype-bros who'll accept you instead. It's disgustingly twitter-brained. It's a bullshit purity test that only serves your comfort over actually trying to convince anyone of anything.

Consider someone who has had some small but valued usage of AI (as a reverse dictionary, for example), but generally considers things like energy usage and intellectual property rights to be serious issues we have to face for AI to truly be a net good. What does that person hear when they read this post? "That time you used ChatGPT to recall the word 'verisimilar' makes you an evil person." is what they hear. And at that moment you've cut that person off from ever actually considering your opinion ever again. Even if you're right that's not healthy.

[–] ysjet@lemmy.world 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Using chatGPT to recall the word 'verisimilar' is an absurd waste of time, energy, and in no way justifies the use of AI.

90% of LLM/GPT use is a waste or could be done with better with another tool, including non-LLM AIs. The remaining 10% are just outright evil.

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[–] TeraByteMarx@lemmy.dbzer0.com -2 points 6 hours ago

Marx would have been pro AI and anti capitalist

[–] kopasz7@sh.itjust.works 69 points 20 hours ago (24 children)

My issues are fundsmentally two fold with gen AI:

  1. Who owns and controls it (billionares and entrenched corporations)

  2. How it is shoehorned into everything (decision making processes, human-to-human communication, my coffee machine)

I cannot wait until finally the check is due and the AI bubble pops; folding this digital snake oil sellers' house of cards.

[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 16 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

When generative AI was first taking off, I saw it as something that could empower regular people to do things that they otherwise could not afford to. The problem, as is always the case, is capitalism immediately turned into a tool of theft and abuse. The theft of training data, the power requirements, selling it for profit, competing against those whose creations were used for training without permission or attribution, the unreliability and untrustworthiness, so many ethical and technical problems.

I still don’t have a problem with using the corpus of all human knowledge for machine learning, in theory, but we’ve ended up heading in a horrible, dystopian direction that will have no good outcomes. As we hurtle toward corporate controlled AGI with no ethical or regulatory guardrails, we are racing toward a scenario where we will be slavers or extinct, and possibly both.

[–] ZDL@lazysoci.al 0 points 8 hours ago

When generative AI was first taking off, I saw it as something that could empower regular people to do things that they otherwise could not afford to.

Except, of course, you aren't doing anything. You are no more writing, making music, or producing art than is an art director at an ad agency is. You're telling something else to make (really shitty) art on your behalf.

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[–] Limonene@lemmy.world 25 points 18 hours ago (7 children)

Generative AI and their outputs are derived products of their training data. I mean this ethically, not legally; I'm not a copyright lawyer.

Using the output for personal viewing (advice, science questions, or jacking off to AI porn you requested) is weird but ethical. It's equivalent to pirating a movie to watch at home.

But as soon as you show someone else the output, I consider it theft without attribution. If you generate a meme image, you're failing to attribute the artists whose work trained the AI without permission. If you generate code, that code infringes the numerous open source licenses of the training data, by failing to attribute it.

Even a simple lemmy text post generated by AI is derived from thousands of unattributed novels.

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 44 points 21 hours ago (25 children)

Are people expected not to follow anyone they disagree with?

[–] De_Narm@lemmy.world 34 points 20 hours ago

Reading other opinions? On my echo chamber platform of choice?! /s

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 14 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

It’s so surreal when someone posts a meme about That Guy™ doing That Thing™ and then all of a sudden That Guy™ shows up in the comments, doing That Thing™

Like, can I get your autograph? You’re famous, bro!

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[–] dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

I do use AI (mostly like Google), but I don't think it's justified or OK, lol - I'm the problem, and I know it.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 5 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I do plenty of shit I know is a problem. Most of it just passively from living in a consumerist society.

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[–] AquaTofana@lemmy.world 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, one of my favorite things is the AI rp chatbots. They're stories written by me and an AI, for me, however the fuck I want to write them.

I used to do it with other people over the web - including my bestie who Ive been writing with for 20+ years now - but I don't write with other humans anymore.

AI solves the ghosting issue, the "life got in the way" issues, the "I'm just not into it anymore" issues, and the "Oh you wanna make this smutty please for the love of god I hope you're not lying about being 26" issue, and finally, the biggest issue for me: "Please I told you I'm happily married please stop asking for me socials or email. I just wanna write fun angsty romance stories with you."

So I'm with you. I'm also the problem, its me. But you know what? When I discovered these AI chatbots in February of this year, my doomscrolling was cut down to a third of what it was, and I all of a sudden was sleeping better and less angry.

I'm not gonna stop.

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