Sorry, you're born too late. You would have loved 19th century colonialism. As long as you could get over the "uninhabited" part of course.
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Everybody is assuming I want to take part in this. I want an imaginary zone for all the assholes to go to...
This is it 👍
Even more adventurous and lawless and dangerous in earlier centuries.
As long as you could get over the “uninhabited” part of course.
They sure did back then, easy as pie.
And some very influential people want that era back. Incl. trampling on people already living there. [Techbroligarch "Freedom" Cities]
That’s just called the USA
Nah but I'm stuck here., womp womp. I want a place people voluntarily go into. This is not based in reality lol. As I've gotten older and learned more about history, I realized what a cursed nation we are though...
As soon as people start having kids, you're back to square one
You should watch Westworld! It's basically what you describe.
Yes. Somalia has 1,900 miles of coastline, a government that knows its place, and all the guns and wives you can afford to buy. Why have I never heard of this paradise before?
-Pierce Hawthorne
The 'freedom' they want only extends to having the freedom to do what they want regardless of how it impacts anybody else.
The vast majority of these people don't want isolation. They need other people to exploit. Edit - or they want the freedom to exploit other natural resources (no doubt they see humans as a natural resource to be exploited) regardless of the impacts on other people, now or in the future.
Have you heard about what happened when libertarians took over Grafton, NH?
Ha that was a fascinating read. I guess bears are libertarian as well!
*See Australia, Taiwan, U.S.A., Japan
Society used to exile people, send them to penal colonies or some people that felt ostracized packed up and left Society. Where? To some of the grea open uninhabited or not so habitatated lands. Taking U.S.A. as an example, there where religious extremists who became unwelcome in Britain, so they left to a place they could practice thier beliefs without competition, America.
Every Society worked better because you didn't need to imprison or kill people that where criminals and people that where ostracized somewhat had the option of making thier own land. Now every single piece of land is claimed there is nowhere to exile people and no where to just run to.
And see how that worked out
There is still Antarctica
Fair, can we start a Make Antarctica Great Agian and encourage some people to move to a "greener" pasture?
I thought you said Autozone and I was excited that someone else was also enthusiastic about a do-it-yourself auto repair shop
Fuck it, I'll take an autonomous AutoZone!
Honestly I'm more wishing the opposite was possible. Imagine a utopia to test out, UBI, communism etc... somewhere that capitalists aren't going to sabatoge and declare war on it while it's in it's infancy.
I imagine it becoming a haven for profitable vices like drugs, gambling and prostitutes to make money off tourists.
So you're saying someone would make their own country, with blackjack and hookers?
Sure. And in my imaginary head canon that is fine and everyone assumes the risk of going into that zone. Once again...this would never work.
Pink Floyd - The Fletcher Memorial Home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDDzR2zSgsM
Huh I've never seen this!
Spot on. Never seen that one before
It would be easier to somehow trick those people into a matrix-style virtual reality where it's literally the same as the current world at the point where they enter (so they don't realize). Then they can act out whatever they want to do as they do in the real world with all the consequences, but instead affecting nothing in reality. Having an autonomous zone to act it out won't work because they won't be satisfied if the real world they perceive isn't affected.
So we trick the red pilled into taking the blue pills...
You might want to read Neuromancer to find out why that’s a terrible idea. If it’s in a cyberpunk world, it’s almost assuredly a giant red flag the author is waving.
To be clear, I don't want to go to this autonomous zone. I want others to go do their weird shit there ha. But yea I'll have to read Neuromancer, have heard it's a good read.
That sounds like you want to deport people
sounds like the purge.
You might be interested in the history of Kowloon Walled City after WW2
As a result of the absence of any widely recognized bureaucracy, the city's residents and businesses had no municipal codes to govern them. Enabled by the enclave's anarchic nature, trade in banned products thrived, ranging from narcotics to dog meat. From the 1950s to the 1970s, it was controlled by local triad gangs and had high rates of prostitution, gambling, and drug abuse.
Yea that place sounds nuts. My mom was for a time from Kowloon, not the walled city but I'm guessing around the same time it operated which is wild to imagine.
It wouldn't work, even in principle. They want to force you to live by their lunacy. It would be totally pointless if they couldn't exert power over the unwilling.
Of course it wouldn't work. That's the whole point. But I say we just ship them there whether they want to go or not.
Would you kindly make Rapture a real place?
Unfortunately they're probably not stupid enough to all fuck off to Mars soon…
Oooh how I wish I could convince all those space obsessed oligarchs to expand civilization over there...
If you were to write an isekai anime for this, it seems like this might be wildly popular in a The Boys kind of way
I unironically want this for everyone. You want to help give communism another shot? Welcome to our home, comrade. You think the DOT, DOE, and FDA are infringing on your rights? Freedom is just a plane ride away. You dream of theocracy? Your wish is granted, by his hand. A streamlined process for balanced legal migration would also be great.