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If you have evidence of Israeli crimes and atrocities that you wish to preserve, there is a thread here in which to do so.


Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

English-language Palestinian Marxist-Leninist twitter account. Alt here.
English-language twitter account that collates news (and has automated posting when the person running it goes to sleep).
Arab-language twitter account with videos and images of fighting.
English-language (with some Arab retweets) Twitter account based in Lebanon.
English-language Palestinian Twitter account which reports on news from the Resistance Axis.

English-language PalestineResist telegram channel.
More telegram channels here for those interested.

Various sources that are covering the Ukraine conflict are also covering the one in Palestine, like Rybar.


The Country of the Week is still Palestine, though we will switch next week to a new country.


Here is the map of the Ukraine conflict, courtesy of Wikipedia.

The weekly (biweekly?) update is here.

Links and Stuff


The bulletins site is down.

Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Add to the above list if you can.


Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


Last week's discussion post.


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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

By slammer on BlueSSkkky

altGugachad wearing a Celtic FC scarf. Background picture shows Green Brigade fans holding up signs of support for Palestine.

The text reads: “SORRY BUT… OUR SUPPORT WILL CONTINUE”.

On the lower right, Nir Bitton, UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin, and Benjamin Netanyahu are in various states of despair.

Context ukkk

[-] nat_turner_overdrive@hexbear.net 63 points 1 year ago

Chinese fighter jet got within 10 feet of US bomber over South China Sea, US military says

The Chinese pilot “flew in an unsafe and unprofessional manner, demonstrated poor airmanship by closing with uncontrolled excessive speed, flying below, in front of, and within 10 feet of the B-52, putting both aircraft in danger of collision,” US Indo-Pacific Command said in a Thursday statement. “We are concerned this pilot was unaware of how close he came to causing a collision.”

"We are concerned this pilot was unaware of how hard he was dunking on us, and hope he finds this footage useful in bragging to his compatriots"

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[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

British Radlibs when events are occurring around the globe that could fundamentally reshape the world for decades to come: blob-sleep

British Radlibs when a Tory is caught lying about something: soypoint-1 soypoint-2

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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mangopress
"Israel, being threatened by China's dialogue for peace and ceasefire, chose to threaten China by cancelling the China-Israeli joint committee in technology cooperation, limit it's trade with China, provocation in the South China Sea and endanger China's water safety."

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Israel doing for China what China was too chicken-shit to do

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[-] edge@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

Just saw a tweet by a Palestinian asking for the full list of dead published by the Gaza Ministry of Health because he hasn't heard from his family in more than a week.

sadness-abysmal

Thankfully his family isn't on the list.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

— 🇱🇧 BREAKING: Hezbollah S.G. Sayyed Hassan Nasrallah will give a speech on Friday, November 3rd, 3:00 PM Beirut time

It will be the first time he gives a speech since the start of the war, and it is expected to be unprecedented.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

A huge number of fuel tankers have accumulated on the border of Iraq and Jordan. Protesters blocking the borders say they will not allow a drop of fuel into Israel.

https://streamable.com/aide5s

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[-] gregheffley@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Something tells me that the death of Israel just started tonight

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[-] joaomarrom@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Jesus Christ, every day I take like ten minutes and go to /r/worldnews to see what they're up to, and I've honestly never seen this level of pure, unmitigated bloodlust on Reddit. This is post-9/11 levels of just the most unhinged islamophobic blood thirst that I've ever seen.

These motherfuckers are mainlining IDF propaganda 24/7, and even the most tepid, timid pushback is downvoted to oblivion and gets dozens of answers that read like absolute fucking demons demanding nothing but the complete annihilation of Gaza. I saw comments implying that all Palestinians support Hamas and are therefore fair game in war, and these comments have thousands of upvotes.

I don't know why I still bother. That site achieves the unthinkable: it is way fucking worse than Twitter.

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[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Liberals have to undergo a Brainectomy as part of the initiation into their cult

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[-] TupamarosShakur@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

It’s so easy to support Palestine when it’s under attack by Israel. Everyone who today is shedding tears for Gaza was a couple weeks ago calling for blood going “Israel has a right to defend itself.” Well they got what they wanted, they should be celebrating. One would hope this would cause some self-reflection in westerners but we all know it won’t, in fact this is a situation that is desired in those same westerners. They are happy to support opponents of imperialism when those opponents are being killed off and displaced and on the run, but they can never support those opponents of imperialism when they are actually materially threatening imperialism.

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[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Desperately trying to convince liberals that the only moral and practical options for opposing Hamas is to either directly by force stopping the ethnic cleansing of Palestine, or by creating and funding a 100% morally correct and non-antisemitic militia, giving them superior arms and materiel, and then supporting them in a campaign of military violence in freeing Palestine from ethnic cleansing, therefore depriving Hamas of legitimacy and role as primary armed resistance to Israel.

And of the two the former is obviously the more practical.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

RSF says killing of Reuters journalist in Lebanon a targeted strike

Reporters Without Borders (RSF) says that the killing of Reuters visuals journalist Issam Abdallah in Lebanon on October 13 was the result of a targeted strike from the direction of the Israeli border.

“According to the ballistic analysis carried out by RSF, the shots came from the east of where the journalists were standing; from the direction of the Israeli border,” RSF said.

“Two strikes in the same place in such a short space of time (just over 30 seconds), from the same direction, clearly indicate precise targeting.”

Footage released online shows Abdallah and other colleagues were clearly marked as “Press” when they were fired upon.

- Al Jazeera

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago

Fucking Guatemala voted against the UN ceasefire proposal. Fucking America worshipping cucks. We have the fourth highest Palestinian population in the Americas and yet our US-led government can't help themselves from following whatever Daddy tells them to do. A ceasefire is the bare minimum and even that was too much for you.

Arbenz please come back from the dead or have your spirit passed on to someone ffs

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

Someone removed the Israel flag at the United Nations protest in Rome

https://streamable.com/lqjakd

[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Large scale nationalization is happening all across Russia. Saw this on telegram and decided to look them up:

The court returned the Dalnegorsk GOK to the state, September 27, 2023

Dalnegorsky GOK is the only producer of boric acid in Russia. According to the authorities, the enterprise is one of the leading industrial enterprises in Primorye. In the first half of the year, more than 480,000 tons of ore were mined here, which is 36% more than in the same period in 2022.

The Prosecutor General's Office filed a lawsuit against the Fininvest company to declare the results of the privatization on August 2 illegal. On August 8, at the request of the prosecutor's office, 100% of the shares in the authorized capital of Dalnegorsky GOK LLC were seized as part of interim measures.

The main stake in Perm-based Metafrax Chemicals will be transferred to Russia, September 8, 2023

The Arbitration Court of the Perm Territory satisfied the demands of the Prosecutor General's Office to seize in favor of the state the main stake in the Perm enterprise Metafrax Chemicals, which was privatized in the 90s, producing methanol, said regional arbitration judge Tatyana Morozova.

The defendant pointed out the incomparability of the Soviet plant, the cost of which was estimated at 370 million rubles before the denomination, with the modern complex in Gubakha, its price is 116 billion rubles: “the objects are incommensurable in quality and cost terms.” The defendant drew attention to the statute of limitations: the prosecutor’s office had the opportunity to declare the illegality of “privatization” from 1994 to the 2000s. “The state has been saying for 30 years that everything is fine. Well, you can’t say after 30 years that the cow has fed up the bull,” the defender of the Metaholding company concluded his speech.

NOOO YOU CAN’T JUST SEIZE THE PLANT THAT I BOUGHT OFF CHEAP WHEN THE USSR FELL, YOU NEVER SAID IT WAS ILLEGAL BEFORE AND NOW THAT IT’S VALUED AT HUNDREDS OF BILLIONS OF RUBLES, YOU JUST CAME IN AND TOOK IT AWAY!!!

putin-wink

The Federal Property Management Agency became the owner of 100% of Volzhsky Orgsintez, September 21, 2023 (Volzhsky Orgsintez is one of the largest chemical factories in Europe)

Information about the new owner was entered on September 20. Previously, 100% of the shares of Volzhsky Orgsintez belonged to Alexander Sobolevsky.

In August, the Arbitration Court of the Volgograd Region satisfied the claim of the Prosecutor General's Office against Sobolevsky to claim 100% of the company's shares in favor of the state. In favor of the state, ordinary shares of the joint-stock company with a par value of 0.2 rubles each in the amount of 2,344,925 were to be credited.

The contract for the sale of the bankrupt Perm defense plant was terminated, August 22, 2023

The agreement was concluded on May 22, 2023, the transaction amount was 725 million rubles. The new owner of the defense enterprise announced plans to modernize the plant's production . The Ministry of Industry and Trade of the Russian Federation challenged the results of the auction by filing a corresponding application with the court as part of the bankruptcy case. The courts of first and appellate instances rejected the claims. As a result, the contract between the defense plant and the Moscow company was terminated pre-trial.

Concern "Pokrovsky" confiscated for corruption proceeds of its beneficiary, October 25, 2023

At the suit of Deputy Prosecutor General of the Russian Federation Igor Tkachev, the property of Andrei Korovayko, Arkady Chebanov, as well as related structures of the Pokrovsky concern, one of the large agro-industrial holdings in Russia, was confiscated. In total, 94 enterprises with a total value of 100 billion rubles were donated to the state. The case concerns shares and shares of JSC Concern Pokrovsky, agricultural firms Rus, Dolzhanskaya, Urozhaynaya, Rassvet, Mostovskaya, Rodina, the Kanevskoy meat and poultry plant, and the Pavlovsky meat processing plant. and "Tikhoretsky", Kanevsky, Timashevsky and Kurganinsky sugar factories, Albashsky, Stepnyansky and Staroshcherbinovsky elevators, as well as numerous trading and service companies.

——

At first I thought this smells like election season, but the weird part is that none of these moves were advertised loudly. Dozens of news like these are silently happening in the background.

Russia is such a weird country. It’s almost as if two separate factions are running the country.

You have on the one side the willingness to nationalize industries under state control, and on the other side you have the libs preparing for privatization of state assets to patch up the budget deficit.

You have a government that is willing to spend a huge amount of money to keep the economy going, and on the other side you have the Ministry of Finance and the Central Bank that doing everything they can to reverse all these efforts by raising interest rates at the snap of a finger.

It’s such a weird country I don’t even know what’s going on anymore.

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[-] Kaplya@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago

2913 dead Palestinian children in 18 days, 5 times more than dead Ukrainian/Russian children in 20 MONTHS. This is insane.

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 60 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

altGreta Thunberg, playing for team Palestine, is throwing down a thunderous dunk on Amy Schumer crying and cowering below. Schumer is on the “iSSrael” squad.

The basketball is an octopus plushie with a Hamas headband, which Thunberg wears also.

The crowd supports Palestine, looking exactly like a Celtic FC crowd.

The text reads “FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA,” the lettering the colors of the flag of Palestine.

by slammer on bSSkkky

~~i have a bsky code if anyone wants it~~

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[-] jack@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Praying that the IDF gets fucking crushed

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[-] carpoftruth@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Bear with me on this one news heads.

The first time I used marijuana and actually got high was a long time ago when I was a teen. I was with a couple friends of mine and we walked to a little cove on the beach, a ways down into a public park. We smoked a joint at the cove, chilled for a few, and then walked back home. Walking back, it really hit me. I vividly remember the feeling of being high for the first time. I felt as though every single moment I was waking up from a dream, like every step and heartbeat was spent piercing the veil between sleep and waking life. It was a feeling of constant transition, where the past was only ever a flicker out of the corner of my eye, and any future, even just 10 steps down the path, was unimaginable. I could focus only on the singular instant in which I existed. It wasn't that the past and the future were hard to fathom, it's that they did not exist.

I am describing this feeling now to the news thread because I believe that this way of being that I experienced as a minor using weed for the first time is a close analogue for how liberals experience and understand history. Just an infinite sequence of individual, disconnected moments, no past or present, only smooth vibes.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

President Biden said he had “no confidence” in the claims by Palestinians about the number of civilians who have been killed in Gaza during the last two weeks. The Hamas-run Health Ministry in Gaza said more than 6,500 people have been killed by Israeli airstrikes since Oct. 7, a number which could not be independently verified.

“I have no notion that Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed,” Biden said. “I’m sure innocents have been killed. And that’s the price of waging a war.” He added, “I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/25/world/israel-hamas-war-gaza-news/4cbfd597-2e43-5a81-b7da-496479c309aa?smid=url-share

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[-] IceWallowCum@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

> Walks 2 steps into border

> Everyone gets captured

Yeah, the ground invasion is gonna go swimmingly

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

It's so cool how the zionist government of israel is just this rabid dog that murders everything and the USA is it's demonic handler.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Example of the fake rubbish out there that I avoid posting here lmao:

From the Hebrew website: Colonel Yair Shalam, Israel commander of the attack on the Bureij camp in Gaza, was captured by the Palestinian resistance!!!

For those that don't know. This dude is Herzi Halevi and he's literally the highest ranking person in the IDF. Extremely obviously and easily verifiable fake post that is getting reshared by massive numbers of accounts.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

They say anything they can to avoid saying the IDF is doing it. "What's happening in Gaza right now is a massive casualty event." MSNBC's reporter in southern Israel just said that.

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[-] jackmarxist@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

God I hate this conflict so much. It's all one sided negative news. I don't feel the energy to read it because it's so depressing.

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[-] InevitableSwing@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Unclear? Israel did it.

The cause of phone and internet outages in Gaza remains unclear, experts say.

It was unclear on Saturday whether a widespread communications outage in the Gaza Strip was because strikes had damaged cellular infrastructure or because Israel had deliberately cut Palestinian service, experts said.

[Continues]

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/28/world/israel-gaza-war-hamas-news/the-cause-of-phone-and-internet-outages-in-gaza-remains-unclear-experts-say?smid=url-share

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[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

I expect hexbear to receive collective royalties for coining GenocideJoe, if not, then I will write a very strongly worded letter to The News

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

⚡️BREAKING: #Israeli army spokesman told ABC News: The expanded operations underway in #Gaza now are not the official ground invasion

I call bullshit. They could say this every single night while continually making it bigger and bigger until they're effectively in an operation that's normalised without ever saying it. Salami slice escalation.

Other actors need to act, and act now.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we really need to come up with a better expression than "braver than the troops" because most (Western, at least) troops are utter cowards who piss themselves if they aren't backed up by frequent bomber raids and dozens of various high-tech gizmos. it's sorta like saying "warmer than liquid nitrogen." not a hard bar to pass

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[-] plinky@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Wishing idf lots of friendly fire and general unhappiness

[-] Huldra@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Love to go on reddit-logo and see people argue that "In an ideal world Hamas and Israel would be equally opposed because they are both moral black holes."

Not that in an ideal world, Hamas would not exist because Israel would not be ethnically cleansing a population they put in a giant concentration camp, just that centrism would rule supreme in an ideal world.

And besides, who fucking chooses their degree of opposition based on "morality"? You wouldnt equally oppose the KKK and idk, the Manson family, because both want race wars, you oppose the KKK more because they have superior means and organization to perform actions in the service of that goal. Opposing the morality of a group is a thought exercise.

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[-] Ho_Chi_Chungus@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Reposting a @DiscoPosting@hexbear.net bit to remind us to stay positive, collected, and hopeful during this critical moment

A world away, further than any place you'll ever go, a young boy sits outside a crumbling, concrete apartment block. Sea spray and smoke swirl through the air together, salty and acrid, coating the world in a shade grayer than usual. He sits and stares up at the sky, at the planes carrying missiles overhead, and he listens for the sounds of catching powders and marching footsteps. He sits with two million siblings. None of them may make it to tomorrow. The sufficiently old and sufficiently able take to the streets. The shelters and tunnels curling beneath them like veins tremble against the tension.

Have they given up?

No. They haven't. And that means neither can you.

[-] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Eternal solidarity to Palestine in their struggle against Amerikkkan subjugation fidel-salute-big

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Feeling a little good this afternoon seeing all the solidarity out there for Palestine. It really feels like the only thing the zionists have control over is the narrative put out by the msm, which very few young people give a shit about. More and more people are coming out as anti-capitalist and anti-israel which gives me some motivation to go on. Does it help the people on the ground being bombed in total darkness rn, no, it doesn't, but hopefully whatever aid people like Hasan and Shaun are doing can make somewhat of a dent. I really don't want to give in to despair. If Israel genocides these people the entire fucking world is awake and will see.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Commander of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard: If the Zionists launch a ground attack in Gaza, they will be buried there

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[-] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago
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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

An image of Hamas fighters geared up like IOF.

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[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

No offense to any Baltics posters here, but liberals from those countries are the dumbest motherfuckers I've seen in a while. Finland really is convinced that China and Russia are working together to keep the Baltics down with the pipeline accident, claiming that accidents like that just don't happen on such a common route.

Then again, America worshippers don't have the best critical thinking skills. An unfortunate side effect of consuming Marvel content exclusively.

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[-] SeventyTwoTrillion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago
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[-] PorkrollPosadist@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well. I sure hope Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran, et al. weren't bluffing.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Israel apparently intend to try to stop Musk from providing Starlink to aid agencies in Gaza.

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