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Sources on the fighting in Palestine against Israel. In general, CW for footage of battles, explosions, dead people, and so on:

UNRWA daily-ish reports on Israel's destruction and siege of Gaza and the West Bank.

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Examples of Ukrainian Nazis and fascists

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Resources For Understanding The War


Defense Politics Asia's youtube channel and their map. Their youtube channel has substantially diminished in quality but the map is still useful.

Moon of Alabama, which tends to have interesting analysis. Avoid the comment section.

Understanding War and the Saker: reactionary sources that have occasional insights on the war.

Alexander Mercouris, who does daily videos on the conflict. While he is a reactionary and surrounds himself with likeminded people, his daily update videos are relatively brainworm-free and good if you don't want to follow Russian telegram channels to get news. He also co-hosts The Duran, which is more explicitly conservative, racist, sexist, transphobic, anti-communist, etc when guests are invited on, but is just about tolerable when it's just the two of them if you want a little more analysis.

On the ground: Patrick Lancaster, an independent and very good journalist reporting in the warzone on the separatists' side.

Unedited videos of Russian/Ukrainian press conferences and speeches.


Telegram Channels

Again, CW for anti-LGBT and racist, sexist, etc speech, as well as combat footage.

Pro-Russian

https://t.me/aleksandr_skif ~ DPR's former Defense Minister and Colonel in the DPR's forces. Russian language.

https://t.me/Slavyangrad ~ A few different pro-Russian people gather frequent content for this channel (~100 posts per day), some socialist, but all socially reactionary. If you can only tolerate using one Russian telegram channel, I would recommend this one.

https://t.me/s/levigodman ~ Does daily update posts.

https://t.me/patricklancasternewstoday ~ Patrick Lancaster's telegram channel.

https://t.me/gonzowarr ~ A big Russian commentator.

https://t.me/rybar ~ One of, if not the, biggest Russian telegram channels focussing on the war out there. Actually quite balanced, maybe even pessimistic about Russia. Produces interesting and useful maps.

https://t.me/epoddubny ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/boris_rozhin ~ Russian language.

https://t.me/mod_russia_en ~ Russian Ministry of Defense. Does daily, if rather bland updates on the number of Ukrainians killed, etc. The figures appear to be approximately accurate; if you want, reduce all numbers by 25% as a 'propaganda tax', if you don't believe them. Does not cover everything, for obvious reasons, and virtually never details Russian losses.

https://t.me/UkraineHumanRightsAbuses ~ Pro-Russian, documents abuses that Ukraine commits.

Pro-Ukraine

Almost every Western media outlet.

https://discord.gg/projectowl ~ Pro-Ukrainian OSINT Discord.

https://t.me/ice_inii ~ Alleged Ukrainian account with a rather cynical take on the entire thing.


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[-] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

mangopress
"Israel, being threatened by China's dialogue for peace and ceasefire, chose to threaten China by cancelling the China-Israeli joint committee in technology cooperation, limit it's trade with China, provocation in the South China Sea and endanger China's water safety."

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 59 points 1 year ago

Israel doing for China what China was too chicken-shit to do

[-] zephyreks@hexbear.net 51 points 1 year ago

It's a good thing, no? China can now recognize that they've pretty comprehensively burned the bridge with Israel without having actually done anything

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You'd think so but then you look at what the US has been doing to China over the last 6 years and that "burned bridge" turns out to be... meetings between Xi and US politicians in the middle of multiple wars supported by the US including against or involving direct Chinese partners.

Nah previous comment was right the current CPC leadership deserves to eat shit over their recent FP moves. Absolute worthless and embarassing period.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

I disagree. There is absolutely nothing wrong with talking. If that talking leads to concessions, then you have a problem.

[-] BynarsAreOk@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't disagree with that in principle, but "talking" in 2018 is vastly different than talking in 2023 and 6 years of escalation, sanctions and provocations. Stand for nothing and are always on the receiving end, there should be no surprise people start questioning your morals let alone your competence imo.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They went for the last 6 months leaving the U.S. on-read, which is incredibly unprecedented for your biggest trading partner. Them re-opening dialogue on their own terms is fine as long as it doesn't lead to them making concessions that they do not need to make to the foreign aggressor.

Saying they 'stand for nothing' is some idealist horseshit. They represent the continued and rising prosperity of over a billion people, if you think that is nothing you have completely lost the thread here.

[-] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sanctions are politically ineffectual and do not affect war efforts. All it does is punish the civilian population. We know this and say this whenever the U.S. does it to other countries, and yet somehow we expect it to be different when China is the one supposed to be sanctioning others.

[-] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 10 points 1 year ago

To be fair US sanctions are specifically designed to target civilians, because of the goofy state department theory about how color revolutions start

I don't think it's out of line to expect the world's largest socialist country to cease military and technical collaboration with hostile capitalist states, especially genocidal ones, it's not gonna collapse Israel, but goddamn don't make it easy for them

[-] Flaps@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago

Israel, being threatened by China's dialogue for peace and ceasefire

[-] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 30 points 1 year ago

Israel diplomatic strategy seems to be making it international pariah to everyone outside the west

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

Fascists gon fash.

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