this post was submitted on 18 Jul 2025
209 points (98.2% liked)

United States | News & Politics

3200 readers
531 users here now

Welcome to !usa@midwest.social, where you can share and converse about the different things happening all over/about the United States.

If you’re interested in participating, please subscribe.

Rules

Be respectful and civil. No racism/bigotry/hateful speech.

Post anything related to the United States.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
 

Nearly two in five Democratic-leaning voters would consider joining a non-Musk-led third party.

all 35 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] AmazingAwesomator@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

ranked choice and at least 5 parties will do me just fine. dont speak for me.

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 7 points 3 weeks ago

This. With our current system we can't get a third party winning without the republicans becoming a vastly minority party at all levels. Anything like rank choice changes the game.

[–] SinningStromgald@lemmy.world 16 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

If someone like AOC or Mamdani ran third party for the, theoretical, next presidential election I would vote for them. Since any third party candidate I would vote for would be unlikely to get large corporate/billionaire donations they should start campaigning now so they have time to build up a grassroots machine to get their message and name out there.

[–] Eldritch@piefed.world 8 points 3 weeks ago

It's your vote. And honestly, presidential elections are meaningless beyond keeping Republicans out currently.

I would much rather see AOC or Mamdami focus on helping to build other state legislatures up as allies. That would be the best way to actually get things done. So much effort is wasted on the presidency. And not spent in the legislature, which is where the fascists have gotten most of their victories from.

[–] baronvonj@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago

Perot received almost 20% of the national popular vote in 1992 and don't win a single electoral vote. There hasn't been a single electoral vote to a 3rd party presidential candidate since 1968. It would take some unbelievably consistent polling showing a massive margin of victory to convince me a 3rd party can win at the state or federal level as long as we have first-past-the-post.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 15 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well Musk is an idiot and a nazi, so.

[–] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, we really don’t need two Nazi parties.

[–] breecher@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 weeks ago

It doesn't matter what voters want, the US election system doesn't care about that.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Ballot reform. Ranked, Approval, Score, whatever.

Otherwise you're wasting your goddamn time.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah I've got no interest in a 3rd party before election reform. Counterproductive.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

And abolish the Electoral College.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Cool, but it seems like a stopgap solution at best.

[–] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

How? Once it passes 270, there's nothing the other states can do about it. It is using the EC to defeat the EC.

[–] nothingcorporate@lemmy.world 8 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, we want a left-wing party, not a 3rd right-wing party 🤦

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 3 weeks ago

A Guillotine Party, mayhaps?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 8 points 3 weeks ago

I'll take it if he vote splits and collapses the right

Otherwise ew no

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Well then, which billionaire do they want in charge?

[–] matdave@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago

Gabe Newell for President

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 4 points 3 weeks ago
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

An actual worker's party would be good, but you won't get that from Musk.

That photo of Musk looks like he's a follower of Dagon and is transforming into a fish-creature.

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No one wants Musk in anything.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

A blender. A woodchipper. A thresher. Trash compactor. Vat of acid.

[–] Denalduh@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You can't fool me with that vat of acid. I wana see some floating bones to be convinced.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

This won't work. I know he's seen Rick and Morty.

Then again, he would be dumb enough to try and use plastic Halloween decoration bones that would dissolve in the acid...

[–] Wilco@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 weeks ago

I stand corrected!

[–] crankyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yes we do! Enough of the uni-party system.

[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

You want musk in charge of a third party…?

The guy who seig heil’d orangeboi not once, but twice, on national television, at his inauguration? That fucking guy?

Unpack that for me.

[–] crankyrebel@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

No, I have hated Musk from the beginning. What we need is a viable working class party.

[–] jawa21@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 weeks ago

Or just abolish political parties altogether since their entire point is to further empower the powerful.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

I do. 3rd parties without election reform just split votes. I'd love to see Musk split the Republican vote.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

Is Jimmy Dore still trying to start the people's party?

[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

"Nearly two in five" is not a good number to bring about any actual change.