Banned? DM Wmill to appeal.
No anti-nautilism posts. See: Eco-fascism Primer
Slop posts go in c/slop. Don't post low-hanging fruit here.
So just to be clear before you get too excited, this paragraph itself doesn't prove anything about the actual uprising.
Only thing this paragraph proves is that a dissident Major General who was part of the uprising was sponsored by the CIA at some point which could have been years after the uprising.
The Hungarian Freedom Fighters Federation, Inc. was an NGO
As vindicating as this is, I don't think this reveal will change anyone's mind. Anyone who had seriously tried to understand it has already come to the conclusion that tankies were right, even without explicit CIA involvement (and knew the CIA were involved anyway).
Anyone committed to the NATO worldview won't consider this a bad thing or will think the CIA justified in trying to free a sovereign nation from Soviet imperialism.
One of the things I find very funny is that liberals in the USA will recognize that a lot of their current problems stem from not adequately prosecuting Reconstruction and allowing the former Confederates to regain positions of authority and pass racist laws. Justice deferred etc etc. But somehow the Soviets weren't behaving correctly when they tried to stamp out fascist backsliding on their doorstep a handful of years after the most devastating war in human history.
I'm sure they'll handwave this away like the rest of the evidence, but I'm thinking about four years ago when @gammison called everything in Aptheker's book "categorically untrue" with evidence like "the CIA only had one case officer in the country at the time!" I mean, how could they do anything with ONLY ONE smol bean officer of that particular type? no mention of other kinds of agents so they must not have existed right? how could one lil' CIA agent handle that much money or weapons, you silly tankie?
https://hexbear.net/comment/1029783
another discrepancy is that they link to supposed "declassified CIA cables" but it's not, it's an article in the "National Security Archives" with its own conclusions, and maybe I'm clueless but I do not see any cable excerpts or a clear idea of any cables, everything seems to be sourced from a "CIA Clandestine History" and I do not trust a supposed "internal history" as much as I would declassified operational cables for real use in decision making.
this is obviously a petty callout but I didn't feel like my response four years ago was adequate
Crazy to see Hexbears in that old thread defending the anti-communist anti-Jew fascists who tried to revolt in Hungary. 10 upbears even.
I don't know enough about the uprising to really weigh in, but what I did find quite funny was reading about Béla Kilály on wikipedia and seeing that he arrived in the US after the suppression of the revolution "speaking good English, having taught himself through an English-Hungarian dictionary while in prison". That's definitely the most likely explanation for those particular language skills.
