. It's so obviously a trap for leftists - we're completely unable to impact the conflict in any meaningful way, so instead it's performative purity tests online for clout. It's perfect in that sense - there's no cost to staking out an insane position because, at the end of the day, it won't impact the conflict at all, just get you clout.

Absolutely fuck off. It's not like pro Palestine activists aren't getting doxxed, sacked, kicked out of uni, beaten, and deported.

[–] NinaPasadena@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago

Also if they sincerely believe that then just say it. Like liberals who think they're leftist seem to believe 2 things:

Nothing anyone has ever done has helped the cause for Palestine. Protests irrelevant. Comments online? Totally pointless. Direct action? Somehow the most pointless.
It's just a purity test for left points

Ok so say genocide bad. You say you want leftists to like you and claim there is a easy way to get them to do so that has no effect on the world. But they won't even say that... As if they actually don't believe atleast one if not both points above...

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s not a trap for leftists at all. Leftists actually find it incredibly easy to navigate this issue and find the correct stance.

God tbh I’m so over the term “left/leftist”. Either you’re an anticapitalist/anti imperialist or you’re the enemy, or at best a useful idiot for the enemy.

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 5 points 3 days ago

God tbh I’m so over the term “left/leftist”.

Ya, no one was complaining when they called themselves liberals. At least communist, socialist, or anarchist demonstrates an actual rejection of the Actually Existing Capitalism hell that everyone is suffering with now.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The comments in r/breadtube about it are kinda surprisingly good. I even peeked at a few other related posts, and they were similarly pretty good. The libs still think they have a soapbox to stand on, but the tide definitely seems to have turned for more and more people with any kind of progressive slant. One thread included mentions of 2nd Thought, Deprogram, and pushback on the use of 'tankie'. Lib smugness is increasingly becoming a liability in the context of everyday reality.

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 41 points 4 days ago (1 children)

"tankie" is so overused bring back just calling things commie like in the good old days.

At least saying commie is kinda fun.

[–] Kumikommunism@hexbear.net 27 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Communist weeb that pretends they're being called "Kami".

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 16 points 4 days ago

:commie-cami:

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 39 points 4 days ago

Comments are absolutely garbage for the most part, but a few gems are scattered throughout.

[–] Esoteir@hexbear.net 44 points 4 days ago

removed four minutes ago lenin-pensive

my inner slop pig goes hungry again biggus-piggus

[–] HarryLime@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago (5 children)

As a leftist, what pisses me off about other pro palenstine leftists is the utter dogmatic approach to Palenstine that they have, like, holy shit they do not care about anything else, but they'll also refuse to do anything meaningful about it. Trump is so much worse than Kamala will ever be in a thousand lifetimes, but "oh no, I cant vote for genocide!" As if they'll be sent straight to hell for voting. They'll throw everything away if it means they get a +1 on their morality chart

[–] axont@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I'm so frustrated with liberals who don't understand it was Harris who was supposed to make her policy clear. If Harris was supposed to be so much better than Trump, especially in regards to Palestine, she should have made that evident to voters, including ambivalent voters. Except she ran a campaign that was primarily about begging for rich donors since no one thought she would win.

You don't signal how much better you are than the opposition by gaining, then bragging about, the endorsement of fucking Dick Cheney. Do liberals just not remember this guy? He's pure evil, one of the most extensive lists of war crimes and death can be levied upon him. He's possibly the largest architect of death of the 21st century so far. It would be like the Beach Boys bragging about how good their music is because they're pals with Charles Manson.

Liberals, just admit you don't care about Palestinian people and you have no values at all. Or admit you're gullible and somehow sincerely believed Harris would somehow stop the genocide she was actively perpetrating.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If Harris was supposed to be so much better than Trump, especially in regards to Palestine, she should have made that evident to voters, including ambivalent voters

Better on genocide? She was literally VP to the president actively aiding that genocide while saying nothing about it

Better on immigration? She gave a fucking speech where she acted all though and told immigrants "do not come." How many did Biden deport?

Better on being a warhawk? She gave a fucking speech about wanting us to have the world's deadliest military!

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 15 points 4 days ago

She doesnt even pull the obama trick of "promising to close guantanamo and then when elected somehow forgot about it" She just straight up thought bringing that war criminal Dick Cheney daughter to sponsor her to get "moderate republicans" vote was good idea, never mind that the moderate republicans prefer a 99.9% hitler over 99.89% hitller.

[–] CutieBootieTootie@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Trump is so much worse than Kamala will ever be in a thousand lifetimes, but "oh no, I cant vote for genocide!"

hitler-detector

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

"oh no, I cant vote for genocide!"

Yeah, correct

If you can, maybe you should do some self crit

[–] D61@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

Real...

can-excuse-1

can-excuse-2

... moment there.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Libs are just mad that we actually care about things and do actions as a result of caring about things. It's something that they all wish they could do but they're too cowardly to even consider, so instead they just get mad at us for it.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 19 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They’re mad because they’re narcissists who think they’re the most virtuous people on the planet and their worldview is shattered when they are being confronted by people who actually dedicate every fiber of their being to this.

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 10 points 4 days ago

It's very virtuous to spend your entire life complaining about how people care about things, actually. Complaining about people caring about things is more important than actually caring about things and doing real action because it's more civil to just complain

[–] Des@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago

reddit vidya game brain gamer-gulag

[–] Warthog455@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

This person is active on arr slash centrist and vaush and claims to be leftist lol

[–] plinky@hexbear.net 25 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Funny thing for smug "shut up about palestine libs" radlibs, is that christian zionists are your primary predators, you fucking political worms. The fuck you think trans banning evas think about palestine? or what do the deporting-assisting palantir thinks of pisrael? Maybe they think that vets+police+ice are different from idf? or that direct action of houthis should be instructional, not deplorable?

Also, the single issue voter is the only thing that works, fucking ahistorical dipshits. Anti-abortion activists were ready to torch anyone against, them not vote for rino and sit out elections. brexiteers and farage were ready to torch conservatives on the altar of their incomprehensible shit. in two party system only brinkmanship works, compromise is the tool of euro centrist coalitions, not casino of binary voting patterns where there is only win or lose.

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 26 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anything political on Subreddit Drama always brings out the smug libs with an undeserved sense of being the adults in the room.

[–] glimmer_twin@hexbear.net 7 points 4 days ago

Anything political on ~~Sub~~reddit ~~Drama~~ always brings out the smug libs with an undeserved sense of being the adults in the room.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago

People who don’t read or do research, refuse to listen others who do, default to some bs talking point straight out of hasbara….and they continue to pretend they know what they’re talking about so they can brow beat one side while claiming to be neutral.

SHUT UP. MORON.

[–] Kopfrkingl@hexbear.net 12 points 4 days ago

It's a genocide when their favorite slop creator hasn't given their pretentious holier than thou take but after that it becomes a "complex issue" that they seem to understand much better than anyone else.

[–] footfaults@lemmygrad.ml 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm a leftist but

DRINK!!!

[–] Lemmygradwontallowme@hexbear.net 2 points 3 days ago

xi-lib-tears

[–] Goblinmancer@hexbear.net 9 points 4 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Redditors in r/SRD can somewhat agree on calling out Ethel Cain for being racist in the past (which I kinda agree with) and then turn around support one of the most genocidal regime in the 21st century for no other reason than being the "real adults". Like whats the point of being "woke" when you support genocide? "UMM sure zionism bad but resisting occupation is bad" They dont want change, they dont want palestine to be free, they just want palestinians to only be victims to be pitied (unless they resist in which case its okay for israel to kill them somehow) and then make movies where zionists express "regret" 15 years later.

They are not even being fucking consistent about the pacifism because lets be honest I doubt they gave a shit if a Ukrainian civilian decides to kill Russians.

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