"are the communists conservative?"
- guy who has never even heard of books
"are the communists conservative?"
They’re tankies, which has its basis in appreciating the USSR and modern day China and some other governments that call themselves “Communist” while having very few if any leftist and communist qualities.
To answer your question, NO, they are not. Stupid and completely lacking in historical, economic, or political nuance? Yes, but that’s a separate problem and not “conservative” in the slightest.
Nuance means that The Adults In The Room that Make The Hard Decisions and Get Shit Done are nuanced when they enjoy atrocities because that's where the treats come from, but enemy teams are evil and subhuman because they interfere with treat distribution.
M'nuance is when saying that all the Nazis should get shot is bad and ebil because muh clean wehrmacht but all Soviets getting nuked is an acceptable political position because the slavic race is historically violent and evil (totally unlike western europeans though slavery was a necessary evil so it wasnt evil).
politic extremism is a horseshoe
South Park brain detected! We have brainworm quarantine breach!
Im actually a Paelo-conservative and own a jet ski dealership. My wife left me and my son doesnt speak with me anymore.
dad?
I read somewhere that the CTH transplants were predominantly millennial veterans/ex mil and I was like "hey, that's me! Lemme go make an account on hexbear so I can see what some of my peers are saying" and the first thing I saw was cartoon shit on pig nuts, so I stuck around.
We have a cartoon one? :O
This one, I'm guessing. It shows up suuuuper big on other instances.
Oh, lol. I'm used the ol' realist classic
Capitalist realism except it's just the ppb photo
I think I've realized just now that the accusations that we're just pretending to be socialist is the same as how libs accuse socialist countries of just pretending
We're the AES of forums folks
I'd love to know what it is about society they think we're looking to conserve
A livable earth
tankies
Video games via FPGA emulation and 100% validated REDUMP archives.
conserving them nuts
thats right
damn libs can't understand we aren't going to beg them for scraps of our deserved human rights.
To quote the finest mind of HexBurr: "I'm as conservative as they come, but I support the Proletariat Revolution"
I don't remember who said this!!!!
yeah i'm a conservative, i think we shouldn't literally kill all white people.
fair
Oh we shouldn't my bad uh I'll still go first
The entirety of libs nuance on the Ukraine war:
"Russia is bad because Putler is an evil barbarian that wants to eat Ukrainian babies alive and you nothing but evil for supporting it, nothing will ever convince me otherwise because Russia is literally an evil oligarchy."
vs
"Oh the Ukrainian Nazis? That's not a swastika bro that's just a norse run... Ok but you see that's complicated because well Ukraine is a democracy now and and ah yes the Nazis are only a small part now trust me.
Oh Ukraine used to be called the most corrupt European country? Well that's not fair who trust those polls anyway, its just a shame honestly but they're improving now and...
Oh they were literaly bombing Donbas for years? Well thats just fake news honestly, shame on you stupid putler bot.
Anyway its honestly more important to defend democracy! Look an LGBTQ flag in Kiev! See they're already more progressive than Russia!"
If you are a """""leftist"""""" that is your nuance you can go fuck yourself, literaly as you cry about conservative tankies.
Nobody denies Russia has problems but nobody should be argueing with nazi hugging dipshit libs over it either.
My new take on anything regarding even a modicum of nuance is that libs only have a memory that goes back about 4 years.
I'm reading through Inventing Reality and Killing Hope and both of these solidify this theory but especially Inventing Reality. It's so depressing reading something that was written 30 years ago about how media forces our perspective of reality and like nothing has fucking changed.
Wtf is pro-orientalism. Legit asking
Not thinking the entire Chinese government need to be executed and the entire country "democratized"
That's the best word they could come up with for not being a sinophobe? Fuck me
Professional at being orientalist.
Life hack: Simply do not click the link
It's just a bunch of us saying "no lol" over and over
When I was in 3rd grade or so, we had a project where we were supposed to pick 5 adjectives to describe ourselves and a line or two to explain it. At the time I was super into protect the animals/planet. So unfortunately, aiming for 'conservationist', I hit 'conservative' and the reasoning blurb was something like 'it is important to make sure the planet stays habitable'. I still cringe thinking about how anyone who saw it (they were hung up in the hallway) must have thought I was some Hitler youth freak or something.
To my knowledge, this was the last time I was mistaken for being 'conservative', and I intend to keep it that way.
Reminds me of a radlib classmate in highschool who once described themself as 'reactionary' (as in 'I react to bad things and want to change them') and the teacher had to explain that reactionary means conservative.
Well, all the non-hexbear commenters are predictably gross and nasty but op made this comment that's got me scratching my head:
This all feels so contradictory, you can’t be anti imperialist and pro China at the same time. Chinese capitalists are colonizing my country right now, we can’t just say “oh it’s OK because they aren’t Americans” the outcome is the same for local people
I've heard this opinion before from people irl and online and I'd really like to know 1) what country they're posting from, 2) what is their theory of imperialism, and 3) kiss my ass (jk one that one lol). Export of capital is one characteristic of imperialism but it happens downstream of the formation of finance capital, and monopoly capital exhausting its growth potential at home, and as far as I can tell China is not using its military to forcibly partition the world into mutually exclusive areas of exploitation.
Idk how to post on that thread and wouldn't want to because of the toxicity but maybe someone here can help me understand where this comes from (since "China is socialist" is not a universal opinion here either)
"Imperialism is when one country influences another." or "China doesn't need to use explicit military force, but BRI countries won't dare act against them, because of the implication."
Thus any sort of diplomacy becomes imperialism when the bad country does it.
Yes I am a conservative, I believe every capitalist who sells their soul to the devil should burn in hell, I believe (class) traitors belong in the coldest pits of hell, I believe finance imperialism is satanic
I don't know about you, but I'm an archaeoconservative who wants to roll the clock back to 1491 in the Western Hemisphere.
I'm an arachnoconservative, and I've already begun placing my eggs sacs at strategic locations for the revolution.
Yes, we are conservative (in American historical polisci, communist members of the Eastern Bloc communist parties are called "conservative" in contrast to their 1980s liberal, counter-revolutionary opponents within the party).
We're all here defending the Palestinian genocide... Or something.
Wait are we federated with Lemmy dot ml? I thought we were but I can't seem to get to that thread from the Hexbear view
I noticed that too and had to take the long way to get to the thread. I also noticed that the lemmy.ml users' comments aren't showing up.
It's the dunk tank.
This is where you come to post big-brained hot takes by chuds, libs, or even fellow leftists, and tear them to itty-bitty pieces with precision dunkstrikes.
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