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The team behind “Superman” is responding to the backlash after director James Gunn said the DC tentpole is the story of “an immigrant that came from other places.”

When asked about the reaction to his comments, James Gunn explained that the movie is for “everyone” and that he doesn’t have “anything to say to anybody” spreading negativity around “Superman.”

“I’m not here to judge people,” he told Variety at Monday night’s “Superman” premiere at Hollywood’s TCL Chinese Theatre. “I think this is a movie about kindness and I think that’s something everyone can relate to.”

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[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 3 points 29 minutes ago

From a 1949 book cover distributed to schools by DC.

MAGA is basically opposed to truth, justice, and the American way, aren't they?

[–] Awesomo85@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

DCU heads in their best J. Jonah Jameson voice:

FIND ME A SINGLE TWEET THAT MAKES A CONTROVERSY OF THIS MOVIE!! WE NEED FREE PUBLICITY DAMMIT!!! IT WORKED FOR DISNEY, IT WILL WORK FOR US!! GET ME ~~THOSE PICTURES~~ THAT TWEET!!!!

[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 12 points 3 hours ago

They really do live in their own little bubble huh? Like dude is a literal alien, and they think he is a home grown hero.

[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 34 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Well, Superman is an illegal immigrant. I don't think they have a US consulate in Kypton.

[–] Hackworth@sh.itjust.works 12 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don't think they have much on Krypton anymore.

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Does that make him a refugee?

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

Only if he actually applies for refugee status.

[–] PlantDadManGuy@lemmy.world 13 points 5 hours ago

Science bless you James Gunn. Keep fighting the good fight.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 45 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

MAGA Outrage Over Director Saying Superman Is an Immigrant

(We're about a decade too late, and our engorged trolls are now our leaders, but still...)

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 49 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

How can you not know Superman's origin story? Apart from the comics its been retold in every major movie version too. He literally is and always was (weird retcons aside) an immigrant.

[–] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 15 points 5 hours ago

Excuse me ~~Jesus~~Superman is white, therefore American!

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 16 points 5 hours ago

A literal alien.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure I knew through popcultural osmosis before I ever saw any of the films

Some people weirdly don't connect fictional scenarios to real life analogues though. Like in the Oz books, a princess is kidnapped and forced to grow up as a boy. Some people don't see that as a transgender character because it's a fantasy scenario. Some people don't see Superman as an immigrant because their brains just don't connect a science fiction situation with an alien to immigration

[–] Bytemite@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago) (2 children)

I've found that people who don't understand or enjoy media literacy or criticism also don't tend to understand the concept of an analogy/allegory, and don't want to either. Superman represents the "American Way" and can't be an immigrant and the idea that America is a nation of immigrants is not relevant in any way. Only the old statements from Bridget from Guilty Gear count and not any of the new ones that confirm she's trans. Naoto from Persona 4 and some similar stories like hers in other games can't be a commentary on social pressures around restrictive gender roles, dysphoria, and performativity simply because she ultimately still identifies as a cis woman. You can explain the nuances until you're out of breath, they will never accept the nuances.

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

There was a post a while ago where someone was explaining that Star Wars was an allegory for the Vietnam war, and the next guy was all "well that's not true, unless the Empire is supposed to be America!"

Like they're so close to getting it, but their brain swats it away before it can become a fully formed thought.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

These are the people who think that Hermione being non-white in the upcoming tv series is a problem because of how it will come across when Draco calls her a mudblood. Yeah, we can't have people reading it as a racist slur when Draco uses a racist slur. I'm genuinely confused as to how they read that scene before.

[–] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

Superman represents the "American Way"

https://youtu.be/xGVYK9GOVzI

[–] leraje@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Those people really need someone to explain the concept of subtext to them.

[–] turmacar@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Many of them are focusing very very hard on selectively ignoring the text of the religion they claim to follow. Subtext might as well not exist.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

One of DC's many reboots in the comics had his spaceship be a birthing pod so that he could be 'born' in America to get around him being an illegal alien.

Definitely one of the wierder retcons.

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[–] blattrules@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

Did they forget they were mad at James Gunn for comments he made about Trump in 2018? It’s not like they were going to see this movie anyway since they don’t like any form of entertainment that’s not explicitly pandering to them.

[–] capuccino@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

"SuperMan is an immigrant" I thought that was an alien. In which world we do live where is worst being an immigrant than an alien.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm looking forward to when "MAGA" becomes derogatory like they somehow did with "woke."

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 7 points 4 hours ago

It already is for half of the country.

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You can be the change you want to see. Start using it as a pejorative.

"What, are you MAGA?"

"I got a MAGA type explanation in response to my question."

"It's clear that MAGA is in charge over there."

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Your usage doesn't seem derogatory without context. I could see a MAGA person saying those things without negativity. It might help to look how woke got transformed. Perhaps it was paired with negative terms like "get this woke shit out of my face."

[–] ieatpwns@lemmy.world 66 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

But they’re explaining only half of the plot an illegal alien is assimilating and it’s making a specific billionaire very upset he can’t continue to exploit his people

[–] Catma@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

All I am gonna say is xenophobic Lex Luthor is always the best written Lex Luthor

[–] frog_brawler@lemmy.world 7 points 5 hours ago

I think the Jeff Bezos character is based on Lex Luthor.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 14 points 6 hours ago

Largely because it's a bit valid to be concerned that the indestructible alien could decide he's bored serving the world and just take it over.

Xenophobic Lex is just a compelling villain, a bit like doom. Someone who has a sound reason for their actions, but usually takes really questionable routes.

[–] Th3D3k0y@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

Is he Xenophobic specifically, or is the Xenophobia simply an expansion on his Deophobia?

I always understood Lex to be more than just "I dislike you because you R alien" and more "You are an alien with supreme power, and humanity cannot stand against you as is, therefore I dislike you"

[–] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 250 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (25 children)

I mean... He's literally an alien that came here illegally.

Is MAGA stupid? Don't answer that, it was rhetorical.

[–] NoSpotOfGround@lemmy.world 51 points 8 hours ago

Bible: "Jesus says to love your neighbor."

MAGA: "Why do you have to make it political?!"

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 68 points 9 hours ago (5 children)

Asmongold. Enough said. Also, most conservative men are opposed to bathing. Something something washing assholes is gay.

They are stupid, useless, and gross.

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 49 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

You mean the guy who lives like a pig and has cockroaches climbing on his shirt while live streaming his newest rage fit should not be listened to?

Seriously, what is wrong with his viewers? The content is shit brought to them by someone living in his own literal shit.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 hours ago

what is wrong with his viewers?

They identify with an unhygenic hateful asshole.

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[–] Sickday@kbin.earth 65 points 9 hours ago (8 children)

I hate the director for deciding to associate a fictional character with societal issues.

Has there been any movie where fictional characters aren't associated with societal issues? I ask because I'm pretty sure every single movie does this.

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[–] tomkatt@lemmy.world 2 points 7 minutes ago

That's wild. Superman fought the KKK and Nazis. He fought for equal rights. My man threw nuclear missiles into the sun in the 80s for demilitarization. Superman is a political figure fighting for a better society. He just also happens to fight big space monsters from time to time as well.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 22 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Show me a piece of fiction which has nothing to say about societal issues and I'll show you a fucking boring piece of fiction.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Show me a piece of fiction which has nothing to say about societal issues and I’ll show you an author or reader who doesn’t understand literature.

I don’t think it’s even possible for a participant in society to write something that has nothing to do with society. We are all affected by our environments. Fish might not notice the ocean, but it doesn’t mean that they could write something that doesn’t involve the ocean, to really stretch a metaphor.

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[–] PoopSpiderman@lemmy.world 89 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Everything upsets MAGA. They’re petulant children in desperate need of a nap. Sadly, they are using that energy to ruin lives, and destroy a country.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 0 points 44 minutes ago
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[–] Lucky_777@lemmy.world 50 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

Party of "fuck your feelings" huh? MAGA biggest cry babies out there. Guess it makes sense.

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