Stand your ground, Pubs love that shit... Be the good guy with the gun brah
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I can't wait for the trial about it gunning them down is self defense,
if it is a trump appointed judge, then it will clearly be considered illegal, which mean the whole point of 2nd amendment (defend against a tryranic government is BS)
or reasonable judge, which will determine it is self defence, then let the fun begin.
Buy some guns and do it to them then.
It's America
I mean, honestly, even without violence, this would be a fantastic protest technique. Imagine if whenever there was an ICE raid, there were hundreds of people dressed indistinguishably from the ICE thugs. Normally this doesn't work at protests. If you put on a fake LAPD uniform, they'll arrest you for impersonating a police officer. But since these thugs aren't in uniform, then you're not impersonating an officer by dressing like them.
"ICE thug" should be the standard uniform for every protester. Watch as their raids collapse into absolute chaos as they can't figure out who is actually on their team. Watch as the police thugs escorting ICE get completely confused as they don't know who to shoot their rubber bullets and tear gas at. Just imagine protesters milling about in active raid scenes, walking in like they own the place, giving contradictory orders to ICE foot soldiers, etc. Hell, the protesters could "detain" many of the people being seized, load them into unmarked vans, drive them a mile away, and then just let them go.
This can be weaponized, all without using actual weapons. Protesters could dress up like these ICE thugs and completely destroy their operations. ICE have forgotten that cops where uniforms not just to protect the public, but also so that cops can tell who is actually a police officer.
It's time ICE learned exactly why police wear uniforms. By not wearing uniforms, they've made themselves comically vulnerable to mass disruption by nonviolent protesters. They've completely destroyed their own chain of command, and they are vulnerable.
We should respond to these people as what they are, domestic terrorists.
Oh so they can breathe through those masks. Isn't it strange how it was difficult for them 4 years ago but now they're totally fine with it.
Tbf, the mask is a bigger inconvenience when you're picking up veggies from the food isle than when chasing down migrants while hoping over a couple of fences. Don't your see? The aerodynamic design of the mask will...
Why aren't masked and armed individuals with weapons and no badges, that make attempts to abduct people, being shot?
Never have I hoped the L.A street gangs just take this matter into their own hands
Because the whole second amendment thing was about carrying a gun in the hope that you get to shoot a black person, a school kid or a teacher.
My Army training would kick in, and I would shoot the terrorists.
/c/iamverybadass
So you would let mexicans get snatched?
If you can make a difference and don't, that's more of a problem with your character.
Never roll over for the fascists. Once the immigrants are gone, you'll be next, and there will be noone left to stop them.
Given nobody has shot at ice agents, I doubt based on statistics alone that you would actually do it
Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about so loudly when someone suggests not letting a mentally ill child own an assault rifle?
Isn't this exactly the government tyranny that argument is used to defend against?
This has been asked many, many times. Most of them are on Drumpy's side. The same fucks on Jan6.
I think they’re the same people that are locking up random immigrants
Where's the well regulated militia you Americans scream about
So, one could argue that the well regulated militia in question is constituted by the National Guard, as they nominally are the armed forces of individual States, and can be nationalized under certain circumstances.
Except for the fact that Trump just nationalized the California National Guard when he's nominally not supposed to....
One should argue that. Even though the national guard acts as a branch of the military, technically they are whats considered a "organized milita" and are actually under the control of the state government
The way the legal system in the US works is just incredible. There are things that are very much illegal, but if the president does them apparently everyone is just fine with it.
The majority of citizens are not "fine" with it, we are watching the results of the capture of every branch of government.
The template for this actually played out in Texas. Texas has a very weak governors office in terms of formal powers. Under George W Bush the Republican party systematically took control of each state office and coordinated their efforts to effect the agenda of Bush, Perry, and now Abbott.
They are doing the same thing at the federal level with project 2025 under Trump, they took the supreme court, and now they have removed the career civil servants that would refuse illegal orders from Trump.
If history of other dictatorships is any guide the powers of ICE will be expanded steadily and the other law enforcement agencies and military will be continually overshadowed by ICE and eventually subordinated to them, like the Republican guard of Iran or the SS in Nazi Germany.
They're too busy gargling republican boot to bother rising up against the tyranny they've cried about for decades.
To a unnerving amount of people's surprise, they only cared about the power of the state when they thought it was being used improperly (having a tolerant democracy), and are more than happy to see it used the way they want (hurting brown people)
It'll come for them at the finish. These brown shirts should pick up a history book. The people who helped the Nazis rise to power did not live to get to enjoy it.
Isn't it the job of the opposition party at this point to propose legislation that outlaws this practice? To run candidates on a platform of reigning in these abuses? To run ads with scary music saying how the government is infringing on liberties etc?
Rural Republicans already fear three letter federal agencies: BLM, ATF, etc. Play to their fears, this very low hanging fruit, Democrats.
California "No Secret Police Act" introduced, would ban police from covering their faces - CBS San Francisco https://share.google/yBJZoO8cseW6R5mc9
Who's gonna enforce it? LAPD and LASD are pissed because they can't join in on the fun and that's why they're trying to kill protesters instead.
Time to grab a certain white South African and deport him
I imagine South Africa would complain. They don't want him back.
Drop him in the ocean off the cape. I'm sure something in there would want him.
Don't they send them to El Salvador or the Congo?
If this was germany, people showing up like this would spark an instant large-scale police operation. just saying. Germany. you know?
Dox all these fuckers. Attack and take their masks. Spread photos everywhere you can. Make their lives terrible. They're not law enforcement they're gestapo.
Perhaps the only valid use for glitter
The diet version of Brad Pitt making a swastika scar on nazi foreheads so they can't take it off like their uniforms in inglorious bastards.
Worse.
Gestapo did not wear masks and they had their legal documentation/warrants ready and available. They were not hiding.
I mean.. In some ways maybe that is not worse. Perhaps there is some shame associated with working for ICE.
Democrats need to thoroughly clear out everyone in ICE as soon as they get the chance.
Spoiler alert they absolutely will not and democrats are going to keep using this shit too
That looks like a gang, operates like a gang, and should be kicked off of the turf of any self-respecting gang, imho.