this post was submitted on 17 Jun 2025
77 points (96.4% liked)

politics

24192 readers
3730 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
top 17 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago

Maybe it's because he's incompetent, or never cared about immigration in the first place.

[–] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 30 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

Sort of odd to see this again (from Vox as well, I think?). It seems to add more detail, but the bottom line remains the same: it's largely because fewer people are trying to immigrate into the U.S. since the Trump admin entered office.

Trump might struggle to ramp up deportations along the border, as Obama did, simply because significantly fewer people are coming. In March, border apprehensions fell to 7,181, a 95 percent decrease from March 2024.

This all sucks, and another part that sucks about it is that as usual, in the absence of as many of the Republicans'/conservatives' favorite scapegoats, they begin turning inward and grabbing anyone and everyone that remotely resembles those scapegoats to abuse and deport to appeal to their base. Without more pushback, and as those deportation numbers continue to dwindle, you can expect that they'll begin more widely rounding up their detractors (or at least attempting to).

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 7 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

That makes sense. I hope the people who would've come here find someplace nice to go. I've heard good things about Costa Rica.

[–] Hadriscus@jlai.lu 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Oh, Costa Rica sounds wonderful. A couple of friends just came back from a few months holiday there, they told us it's fantastic, socially feels very peaceful

[–] swelter_spark@reddthat.com 5 points 17 hours ago

That's what I've heard. I had a client who started looking into moving there during the first Trump presidency. He had a friend who moved there. Said the economy wasn't quite as strong as in the US, but a lower crime rate and very friendly people. And the plants and animals there look amazing!

[–] Sc00ter@lemmy.zip 4 points 20 hours ago

95% decrease? Holy shit. Another metric that shows how shitty we are

[–] AreaKode@lemmy.world 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because deporting causes paperwork. Disappearing is easier.

[–] ryokimball@infosec.pub 13 points 1 day ago

Perhaps he fired off people that would handle the paperwork efficiently...

[–] sunbrrnslapper@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Because he even sucks at being shitty.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

And he's not gonna shrink the federal workforce more than Bill did in the 90s...

Well, really Hillary was taking credit for it at the time, but even though they campaigned as a "two for one" people don't want to give Hillary credit for all the damage she did as first lady.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

It isn't about the achieving the stated results (deportations), it's about putting on a circus for his base and building himself a personal army built entirely of members of his personality cult.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago

Because the Trump administration is stacked with incompetent morons that could barely organize a parade, let alone a mass-deportation project.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Because Democrats are efficient at being fascist bastards, I suppose.


Never forget that Obama said "we need to look forward, not backward' in respect to war crimes committed by Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and the rest of the criminal gang. Trump hasn't even risen to the level of war crimes, did we really think they were going to punish him for anything?

The fucking milquetoast pussy shit that the Dems have been feeding us for nearly three decades now is why the Republicans get away with so much shit.

This is the same party that, instead of questioning and critiquing the plans for war in Iraq, needed to "show they were strong on terrorism" and instead signed off on it probably fully knowing the intelligence was faked. This is the same reason Obama had to be "tough on immigration" to show he had his fascist bona fides.

Weak willed idiots who sway in the breeze to follow public opinion instead of standing by any principles at all.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Okay, so it would be near (possibly already) impossible to develop another party in the U.S. and get members inserted in enough states to be on the ballot for the U.S. presidency if there is a vote in 2028. It is possible to vote every member of the congress out by 2028. (Not quite all of the Senate, statistically 2/3rds).

So which is easier to do, make a new party and split the progressives from the centrists and give a guaranteed win to the Republicans, or vote in progressive Congress/Senators and ensure people vote in the primaries to not allow the less progressive ones be the only members on the ballot.

That said. If you believe there won't be a legitimate vote again, then there is no reason to even think about democrats at this point. They haven't controlled Congress since 2009 and Shumer is considered progressive by no one. (He can be voted out in 2028 as well if people show up to primaries).

Whichever president/VP came in would place the new executive branch positions. Then the issue is just the courts.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh I agree, and I think that voting the chumps out and replacing them with competent people who will stand by their principles and fight is the solution. There's some real dinosaurs in office who are still legislating like this is the 1980s.

The Democratic party is just made up of people, and those people can be replaced. It's not the label that's the problem, it's the people.

[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee -2 points 23 hours ago

Did you forget about 2021-2023?