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[–] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 2 points 47 minutes ago

I tend to wear a special hat that allows me to consume music in any format or device I like.

and then go donate to, or purchase music directly from the artists that I like.

[–] kalistia@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] RustedSnail@europe.pub 1 points 2 hours ago

I tried them for a bit and really wanted to like them but their "modern" metal catalog, playlists, and discover-ability was so bad I had to begrudgingly go back to tidal.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

A glance at this makes me happy to just keep playing my mp3s.

[–] unknown1234_5@kbin.earth 5 points 5 hours ago

I'm trying to get most of what I like on CD and then host a jellyfin server

[–] mortalglowworm@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago

There are also Faircamp and Mirlo, if you are looking for even fairer and progressive alternatives.

[–] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 26 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

This graphic seems to put Spotify in a "less shit" category than the other big players based on national origin or something.

From a quality and fairness perspective Spotify is just as bad. A large list of credible musicians and content creators have detailed the poor compensation, shift towards fake artists and AI filler tracks, and other moves Spotify has made that harm the artists and provide a worse listener experience.

If you want to fairly compensate artists, you'd be better off pirating 100% of your streams using alternate frontends for YT music, then making a list of your top 10-20 artists and buying an album or T-shirt from each of their official websites. They will make a lot better margin on that and its better for their career than any amount of streams you can give as one individual. (Also go to shows when available locally)

[–] rainha_da_sucata@slrpnk.net 5 points 4 hours ago

I've been considering this and although I'm not one to pirate anything (my skills for this stayed in 1999) I've been buying CDs out of thrift stores and ripping them :)

[–] thesmokingman@programming.dev 12 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Tidal is owned by Block, the owners of Square, which is the biggest POS vendor in the US. If that’s not big tech I don’t know what is.

[–] nfreak@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago

Part of the reason I just shifted to a fully self-hosted setup.

Left Spotify because of all the bullshit they pull, tried out Tidal because of the higher quality and higher artist pay, but even if it is a substantially better platform, its ownership is questionable to say the least.

I dusted off bandcamp and learned to use slskd to build a full local high quality library powered by a Navidrome instance.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 5 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Naspers is a South African multinational internet, technology and multimedia holding company headquartered in Cape Town... did you mean Napster...? Did you generate this with AI or something?

Why would the largest music streaming service in the world be in the "other" category and not the "Big Tech Incumbents".

[–] stellargmite@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Yeh and the blurb for splotifry reads like an ad, with not a negative word to say about this exploitative monster.

[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 3 points 4 hours ago

I mean, the "To Note" section includes information about their worse practices. The whole infographic is such a nonsense mishmash.

[–] Hadowenkiroast@piefed.social 32 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (3 children)

i decided to self host my library in as high of a res I could using Navidrome/subsonic.

I had a FiiO X3 anyway so i already had a FLAC capable player.

in the end, even if i know it's not for everyone. selfhosting is the only way to never lose what u love. so many of my lesser known tracks are just gone on spotify.

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 11 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Never lose as long as you have a good backup strategy.

[–] Hadowenkiroast@piefed.social 9 points 11 hours ago

Very True, that is one of the few things people don't realize enough when starting selfhosting. Backups and documenting what you did.

I have a raid NAS keeping my data in-house which has an encrypted backup in the cloud (Infomaniak kdrive) and my FiiO X3 SD card which is an additional portable backup. So on that front, I don't worry too much.

[–] Outwit1294@lemmy.today 6 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

I did this but I am not able to find new content.

[–] mmmac@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

You could scrobble to listenbrainz and last.fm and pull suggestions from there

[–] Hadowenkiroast@piefed.social 5 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

That is indeed quite a gap and nothing that fills the "discover weekly/release radarr" that spotify gives you once you use it for a while, I tend to go to tons of music events and I pick up music here and there.

Browsing what's popular/trending on beatport also helps a lot in adding fun tracks you wouldn't know from the radio.

[–] irotsoma@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 hours ago

Yeah it sucks that the Spotify algorithm for both automated playlists and "shuffle" is a mess now. It used to be half-decent, but now from what I've heard from insiders, though no official confirmation or anything, is that the algorithms were modified to heavily favor sponsored artists, and so only really works with popular genres with lots of sponsored artists from major record labels, and "popular" songs, which means the more a song is played, the more often it gets played which becomes a self-fulfilling popularity cycle that excludes less well known songs. Really does a bad job for me with interests across many genres and wanting to hear more "b-sides" from artist I follow.

To be fair,i switched to Tidal for a bit because i got a several moth discount for talking with a product manager about what I thought the app needed (though they didn't seem to take any of my advice anyway), and it's no better than Spotify with finding new music. It paid artists better at the time and streaming quality is a bit better (not sure about now), but it was also missing a lot of artists I listen to, unfortunately.

I really miss the early days of Pandora when it used to use the "components" of music to cross genres and didn't rely as heavily on how popular a song was and had just about all artists I could possibly want. Sure, I did a lot more skipping of songs back then, but now I just hear the same 50 or so songs over and over. I get really tired of it and don't have the time to make my own playlists, not to mention even if I make a list, I want it shuffled, and even that just plays the same songs over and over way more than "random" would.

I'd love if there was a service for finding new music that allows me to hear new songs and then choose to purchase them if I want to hear them again.

And even better if it gives me a list later to review if I want to purchase so when I listen in the car I don't have to touch 4 or more buttons to "like" a song. Never understood why Spotify, Tidal, etc., car apps always bury the like button and instead present a back button that doesn't work if you aren't in a predefined playlist anyway, and a shuffle button that I'm not going to want to turn off and on on the fly anyway. The like button should be immediately after the next and pause buttons in priority order. Such bad Ux design.

I also really miss Aimee Street that Amazon bought and killed. It was a cool way to get less popular music for cheap as well as getting the artist more exposure and more money the more often a track was purchased. Got so much stuff for pennies that I ended up really liking and buying a lot more from the artist.

Anyway, that's my rant about music apps for today.

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I've been happy with Bandcamp. They got sold recently so their future is uncertain, but I downloaded all the music I bought.

They don't really have an algorithm, but you can see who else purchased something, and they do blog posts about like "what's new in [genre]" that's worth reading. So far as I can tell it's written by real people.

[–] ech@lemm.ee 7 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They also have regular "Bandcamp Fridays", where they forego their 25% and give musicians 100% of proceeds for the day. It's a good chance to directly support small artists.

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, from the conversations I've had, they're kind of the best of a bad bunch, all things considered.

[–] ReluctantZen@feddit.nl 17 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (10 children)

Qobuz also does purchaseable music, not just streaming.

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[–] Trail@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Anything that can work with Android Auto?

[–] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Excellent question! Qobuz should be and I believe TIDal /Deezer as well. But feel free to create a post on !PurchaseWithPurpose@lemmy.world for more exposure :)

[–] OminousOrange@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Tidal does. Haven't tried others.

[–] GargleBlaster@lemmy.world 21 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

I switched from Spotify to tidal then deezer and finally landed on qobuz. While the app still has some problems and the music selection is not as massive as on Spotify (but mainly in super niche content), the higher artist pay and amazing soundquality are definitely worth it

[–] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 12 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

Spotify to tidal then deezer and finally landed on qobuz

Steps out of Time Machine from 15 years ago

WTF

[–] 2xsaiko@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 6 hours ago

Poob has it for you.

[–] Bubs@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

Wipur is the next big deal, but Boodle is likely to replace it. Slove is already dying, but iMPUR and Doofz look promising as replacements.

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[–] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

I haven't heard of half of those but SoundCloud is in the "other" category.

[–] lemmyknow@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

No Qobuz on Linux afaik :(

I'd otherwise consider the switch

Though being part of a family plan, I'd either have to pay for it myself – an added cost to expenses – or somehow get whole family to move over.

I wonder also how they be with people living separately

[–] FallenWalnut@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

I see there might be some unofficial apps... But maybe ask in !PurchaseWithPurpose@lemmy.world a few Linux lovers there, that might be able to help :)

[–] RustedSnail@europe.pub 1 points 2 hours ago

I had no problem using Qobuz on Linux (firefox and chrome based browsers); unless you are mean you were expecting a separate app or something.

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