The Baltics are part of NATO because they didn't want to be part of the failed Soviet Union or the modern Russian Federation. And with Russia invading Ukraine, twice now, it isn't very hard to see why.
Get fucked Russia.
this post was submitted on 09 Jun 2025
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The Baltics weren't voluntarily part of Soviet Union. They were occupied. So after they regained independence, obviously they joined NATO to get security from Russia occupying again.
Ah yes "NATO pls if you'll just surrender and go away, we pinky-promise not be bad anymore"
With Operation Spider's Web, (and Russia trying to launch massive counterattacks against civilian populations and still only managing to kill only two people) is showing that Russia might not have as strong of a position as they think they do.
NATO can't pull out of the baltics. NATO isn't in the baltics. The baltics are NATO.
"Moscow should pull out of Russia" is a equally nonsensical statement.
Russia doesn’t get to dictate who other sovereign nations choose to associate with.
"If you won't let us have Ukraine, let us have the Baltic states instead! 😡😭"
Who said "instead"? Putin wants all. And NATO has serious problems with articulating "No".
unlike ukraine the baltics are in the EU, they have choosen to, taking this to the baltics is escalating it further, NATO cant withdraw from baltics, the baltics are part of EU thus NATO
NATO has nothing to do with being in the European Union, not every E.U. country is in NATO and vice versa. NATO is an alliance, which you must apply for, separately from the E.U.
Given the EU has a mutual defence agreement that I understood to be stronger than NATOs. An attack on the Baltic states would be an attack on NATO. Even if they were not in it.
Yes, it's the Treaty of Lisbon. The difference is still important to make, not only for educational purposes, but because it does affect which countries would be required to aid depending on who is attacked. Not to mention USA/Canada who are very much a part of NATO and not the E.U.
Sorry I don't believe that would change a damn thing. A little late now...
NATO should say they promise not to once Russia hands over its nuclear weapons. You know, like Ukraine did. Use the exact same paperwork that Ukraine signed in 1994 (NPT), with the word Ukraine taped over so it’s super obvious.
Oh fuck all the way outta here with that weak ass bullshit.
Putin announcing his next invasion plans once he fails totally in Ukraine.
That was my escape plan from the US. Now what?
The only good answer to that:
"No, that won't happen. So I guess we're in this for another year. Here's the list of wapons that we will deliver to Ukraine, as well as spare parts and ammo that go with them. And here's the list of new sanctions we'll apply against Russia. See you next year, except if you have a change of heart".
But that's not going to happen...
Yep. He's setting a demand that he knows will NEVER be fulfilled so he can justify continuing. So he needs to feel the consequences
Lmfao they’re slipping. It’s really telling. Putin is losing control. His conventional forces must be in pretty dire straits.
Maybe losing another meaningful fraction of his nuclear forces will help him feel better.
It’s okay. Ukraine will end it for you
"I won't quit until you let me win"
Nazi state is nazing.
More news at 11.
Shut the fuck up you fucking cunt nato can do what ever the fuck it wants now you got into a cock measuring contest and we all worked out you where wearing a strap on.
Baltics need to take Kaliningrad, de-nazify it and deshitify it.
Please don't do that. Just work on sanctions sidesteps support Ukraine and wait for Putin's bad decisions to catch with him.
Might as well demand demilitarization of Alaska, Hawaii, and California too, since Russia ran parts of those at one point as well. I mean, heck, why settle for just the Baltics?
I had no idea about Hawai'i and California. That's super interesting.
looks eerily familiar: recent tariff war drama with asking price sliding from 150% down to 25% . Ask for the moon in hopes to get a pebble. They are counting on US "folding" and US just might... except US is losing grip on Europe so end result will be unlikely what kremlin wants. They have stirred up this sh#t and they will have to live with it. It'll be an impossible sell for Baltics to leave NATO nor should they ever consider it.
So he can invade them too? No thanks
Russia couldn’t pull out of a driveway without killing a million of its own people.
Hey Trump, this has been a real long 24 hours...
Or the war will continue until the Russian people deliver Putin's head on a spike. Assuming there's much left of the head after the 30th-floor defenstration.
Really it’s just misdirection. You’re winning the Ukraine argument so start a new thread about something else. It just shows Russian doctrine at work, keep lying and keep people guessing about what might happen. Rattling nuclear weapons is another example.
Cool it down putin, no one cares.