This scenario is quite the best outcome. Two narcissists fighting each other, hopong for a homicide/suicide ❤️
this post was submitted on 05 Jun 2025
715 points (98.4% liked)
politics
23996 readers
3844 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
It's already happening...
Musk was the bank that got MAGA elected in places they'd pissed off voters too much to keep winning.
If musk and trump split, the Republicans in the house and Senate need both musks money and Trump's cult. They can't win with either alone.
They're already past the point of no return, their egos are too big to make up.
their egos are too big to make up
That's where you're wrong. They both constantly rewrite the past in their own memories. Shit one takes massive doses of disassociatves and the other can't be bothered to digest a single thought. They can make up and act like nothing ever happened and they're both the greatest. To hold a grudge you need to be able to hold a coherent opinion on anything and not exist in a perpetual stream of consciousness.
load more comments
(3 replies)
I don't understand. This was quite possibly the most predictable thing that could have happened. Trump has a 40 year history of stiffing creditors and vendors. There has never been anything transactional about him, he just does this same thing over and over. Like there's a reason that people have been saying, "a Trump never pays his debts" since like 2015.
load more comments
(7 replies)
I kept seeing people saying that this is all performative and that they're both in on it, but idk, I was raised by narcissists and this is basically the exact same fight playing out on the global stage that played out weekly in my childhood living room.
Yep, same, exactly.
This is way, way too in depth to be an elaborately staged, intetional hyperreality performance.
These two just actually are this stupid, this self-centered, this insecure and ego driven.
If this is some kind of an act, it would require both of them to have been method acting at Daniel Day Lewis levels for about a decade with no breaks.
Its 'performative' in the sense of intentionally being catty, shit-disturbing, dramatic, old men acting like the cast of the Mean Girls... but it is not performative in the sense of 'entirely staged to fool us dumb rubes.'
That being said, this all still does function as a grand distraction to any other person or kind of nefarious nonsense... but no, these two are having the messiest, most high stakes, most public breakup in probably the history of the world right now, and they are both totally genuine.
... It is also arguably the funniest way concievable for the American Empire / Era to end.
How in the fuck do you write a history book about this in 20 years?
... I don't fucking know, but I do know I want Larry David to write a script for a 'The Death of Stalin' style movie about the last 9 months.
EDIT: Wait! Mel Brooks is still alive somefucking how, get in him in the writing room too!
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(3 replies)
load more comments
(7 replies)
I have this feeling that JD Vance is way worse than Trump
He is much worse, but he's also far less of a threat, as he doesn't have ANY public mandate, in the form of any kind of following or cultish fandom.
Trump's power is almost ENTIRELY a product of how he tapped into the country's stupid fucking redneck hogs and narcissists and delusional conspiracy nuts. JD has exactly ZERO flat-earthers driving around with his face painted on the side of their van. Having a following of millions of people, even if they are mentally-deficient to a degree that is literally breathtaking, is still power, a great deal of power too because he has them under such tight control.
Vance might be dangerous in short-term policy decisions, but he doesn't have electoral power, he doesn't have chips in the game, he won't make a dent in senate/house bill votes, he won't have influence on local and state elections. He's pre-neutered. The only ones who should be worried about Vance are the white-house sofas.
load more comments
(8 replies)
Yes, but he won’t be backed up by maga. There will be more internal fighting.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Vance is totally owned by Peter Theil, who is a well-known Psychopathic Oligarch.
load more comments
(3 replies)
So let me get that straight, you spent hundreds of millions of dollars to get a guy, who you think should be impeached and is guilty of underage sex, to be the president of the United States?
He spent hundreds of millions to scrape personal data of all US citizens and cripple investigations into his businesses.
This is the real bottom line, right here
He KNEW about the underage sex stuff when he spent the nearly 300 billion dollars too.
Is this a massive gamble by Elmo to rebuild his brand image by forcing me to agree with him on certain issues? Let’s not forget this was the same guy Nazi saluting this dude at his Inauguration a few short months ago.
No, its not. Musk is just salty Trump used and discarded him. You have to understand, these are just children who stumbled into power and never really grew up.
Yeah - nepo babies are like this. Made the mistake of marrying one, and any perceived slight needed punishment and retaliation.
load more comments
(1 replies)
I'm not forgetting anything. I'm just enjoying two enemies fight it out.
Can we have both of these? Please please please?
- Trump impeached
- Musk deported
I know there is some clause or stipulation that allows for the seizure of assets obtained by illegal immigrants.
Musk is an illegal immigrant who pursued business ventures in violation of his school visa and lied about it.
If we're dreaming of fantasies that will never happen, I also want nationwide ranked-choice voting, and maybe we can overturn Citizens United Vs Federal Elections and stop allowing corporations to literally run our country.
load more comments
(1 replies)
Anybody have any idea what they're trying to hide with this puppet show? Is the big bill getting too much attention or is it something else?
I think you're giving them too much credit. I'm pretty sure this really is just a senile old man feuding with a ketamine addict.
There was news today that the Senate is considering cutting Medicare in addition to Medicaid, as well as news of major changes to how science funding is sent out to researchers. Also the travel bans for foreign nationals from certain countries.
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(3 replies)
Sadly enough, this won't escalate into anything because Musk didn't exactly have a lot of friends in the GOP even when Trump's head was crammed shoulder-deep in his ass. He was only tolerated because the GOP had no other real choice, and they didn't want to risk him funding a primary challenger. He has lots of money but no actual political clout. Which means I doubt there's going to be a bunch of Republicans suddenly jumping to Team Musk.
He'll probably go the Liz Cheney route of just being ostracized by everybody. But hey, it'll be a hell of a lot of fun watching all this shit in the meantime.
I don’t know. He’s got tons of money and politicians are like flies to shit with money.
load more comments
(10 replies)
load more comments
(6 replies)
Who could see this coming said that one clueless guy who didn't.
What I really love about this is that Trump is so narcissistic that he earnestly believed that Elon liked him. That he believed in his vision for the country and that he wouldn't want anything in return, like a load more juicy government contracts, a bill to mandate that petrol cars would be phased out, or all safety regulations about self driving cars to be torn up.
Bless his cold dead heart for being exactly what everybody knows he is. Everybody except those idiots who jump into bed with him, because all those other people he betrayed were losers who just weren't smart enough.
i mean...you could just as easily say the reverse, it honestly seemed like they needed each other just as much both ways
load more comments
(1 replies)
Consider this, JD Vance is Peter Thiel's Acolyte, who desperately wants to bring about a global technocracy. What if all of this hasn't been a genuine attempt yet. What if it's merely theatre that has been setting the stage for Vance to take over. Trump gets to enrich his family beyond their wildest imagination, then he peaces out and the real horror begins.
I don't see Vance flags on people's trucks. I see Trump flags. I just don't know that Vance gets the backing Trump does. I think the Rs capitulate to Trump so much because of his rabies base, and there's this concern they'll be replaced by someone who Trump endorses.
I do think it's all a game for wealthy people, and we will just pay for it one way or another, regardless.
MAGA is a classic cult of personality. It's all HitlerPig, there is no #2 waiting in the wings, not even his own spawn. When HitlerPig goes, MAGA is dead, and the backstabbing will become open warfare.
If the Dems can get their shit together, and have the spine to act, they'll have the opportunity to sweep up the most corrupt traitors, and remove them from politics forever. They can hit a giant reset button on American politics.
Let's see if they have the nerve for bold action on America's behalf.
load more comments
(1 replies)
What a absolutely wild timeline we are living in
This is like hearing the school saying the two biggest bullies are going to fight in the yard after school
Everyone knows that one of them can't hit any thing harder than a pillow and the other always chickens out against any opponent unless the person they'll punch is held down by four guys.
The entire school knows that this shit show is a circus that will just be full of drama and no fighting .... but we're all going to head out onto the yard anyway to laugh at how stupid these idiots are going perform.
I'll see you all on the yard after the last bell at 3pm
Elmo the degenerate mass murderer can get fucked.
They are both corrupt degenerates that lack humanity and should be dealt with in a way that accounts for their lack of humanity.
load more comments
(7 replies)
Why am I rooting for Elon Musk in 2025?
The enemy of my enemy is my enemies enemy. But they can still be useful.
load more comments
(5 replies)
I was waiting for those two to fall out. Two egos this big were always going to clash sooner or later. This will be entertaining and hopefully damaging to both of them.
load more comments
(1 replies)
I wonder what all the conservative virtue signallers are going to do with their fully-loaded foundation edition cyberbeast cybertrucks now?
Did the simulation break?
This is so fucking bizzare.
Some truman-show shit to see how we (the non-actors of this world) react.
load more comments
(3 replies)
There's some major schadenfreude in this, but never forget all of the damage that DOGE did to the government & countless numbers of its loyal employees.
view more: next ›