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Jonathan Joss ruled, we are poorer for his murder (lemmy.world)
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[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 257 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

For anyone who doesn't know what happened that night, Jonathan and his husband were visiting their former house that had been burned down when they saw that their pet dog's skull had been placed on a fence for them to see. The couple began wailing out of desperation and terror, and that's when the neighbor showed up with a gun, yelling homophobic slurs. John's husband was to be shot when he pulled him away and took the bullet for him instead.

Not only were they terrorized, but also ambushed and killed in cold blood. John died doing the ultimate sacrifice. John is a hero.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 139 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don’t forget that they had received homophobic threats about burning their house down. I have zero doubt in my mind the murderer was just upset they didn’t die in the fire.

[–] raltoid@lemmy.world 144 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It was years of threats, mostly from the same guy that shot him. Cops ignored the reports, and then instantly declared that no hate crime was committed without investigating anything.

They didn't realize that he knew a-listers, tried to sweep it under the rug, and now they have an international spotlight on them

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 55 points 2 months ago

Yeah let’s see what it leads to. I’m not holding my breath. Having the international spotlight on you seems to mean very little today in the fascist infused homophobic mindset. A whole lotta fist shaking

[–] doublenut@sh.itjust.works 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

So who's the neighbor?

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, whats its name? What church does it spread its hate at? We need to keep ourselves safe, and right now, that means showing we arent weak.

[–] HasturInYellow@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Be crazy if the guys house just randomly caught fire.

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

The pigs are as responsible for this as the shooter is. ACAB.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 57 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Fucking hell. No hatred like religion and conservatism.

[–] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Local police: boys being boys, no hate crime

[–] BigBenis@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Legacy media: he was shot after an argument

[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 40 points 2 months ago

Okay, this one hurts on so many levels.

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 129 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Not just a gay issue though. Fuck these inbred subhuman freaks of stupidity that can't stop obsessing over who someone else fucks at night. Those kinds of disorders are not okay. Those kinds of people have no right to exist in freedom. I come from one of these backwards psychotic prejudiced backgrounds. I had the sense to walk away from my social support network because they are wrong and deranged; blind to their own prejudice and hate. No excuses.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Glad you got out. Any idea how we fix them?

[–] alaphic@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

I know of a few ways, but they travel at around 4500 ft/sec

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Also not just a gay issue because

for men

  • are you not a gym bro? They can just accuse you of being effeminate and do the same thing to you, even if you're straight

  • are you a gym bro? They can just accuse you of being hyper masculine and obsessed with men/your looks and do the same thing to you, even if you're straight

for women the same but with femininity / hair length / makeup usage /clothing.

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 112 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The police: Not a hate crime.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not even a hate accident.

Just a 'yup' in the alley between the men, the gun probably slipped.
So tragic.
Everyone needs more guns.

(I don't need a "/s", do I? I get surprised sometimes.)

[–] chuckleslord@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You should always use /s when you're sarcastically being a monster. Don't give the monsters any space to occupy

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago

Thx, I hate it.
(And agree.)

[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 52 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Texas is a shit hole

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I have a group of friends that I ride horses with who are wanting me to take a trip to Texas with them. I denied my invite, saying that I'd rather stay alive. As an openly gay, disabled woman who will be getting a total hysterectomy next month, I feel like I'd be vilified.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

My partner is from Texas. We've been dating for a year and a half and I have yet to visit his family...

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I wouldn't blame you if you never meet them. I've known a couple people from Texas who moved across the country to where I'm at just to get away from it all.

[–] NikkiDimes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His mom and a couple brothers have come out to visit at least, so I've met some of his family. I'm hoping his dad will come out at some point.

I just feel really bad about not going out to their family events and what not. I was actually going to go last Christmas, bought a plane ticket and everything. I went to the airport gate, turned around, and went home and cried instead...

[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't feel bad about it, especially if your partner isn't pushing for you to meet them. Sounds like the situation is a delicate one.

When I got back into contact with my father (who I cut ties with because he was a drunk/addict, was not mentally stable, and was absent and abusive), we met on my terms. Neutral ground and I brought my mom for backup. I cried so much before that meet and almost chickened out.

I don't really have any advice or whatever, but I totally understand the anxiety you feel. If you ever wanna talk about it, just dm me and I'll lend an ear.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This hurts as a Texan, but also rings true. I used to think we’re more “independent” minded than the South (as I have some scary Southern family), but every day since 2016 has opened my eyes more.

The murder made me think about how much I heard “fag,” racial slurs and worse as a kid, and how many stayed in the closet out of fear.

If you come, come to Austin! It’s better. Avoid Dallas, it sucks.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

No. My ass is a shit hole. Nobody's ever been killed over my ass.

Then again; I've never let a christian nest there.

[–] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 17 points 2 months ago

Shit I didn't know he was Chief Ken Hotate of the Wamapoke...

What a fucked up world...

[–] yes_blackphillip@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

This is just fucking awful. I don't want to be in the darkest timeline anymore.