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[-] Beaver@hexbear.net 106 points 8 months ago

Literally one of the smartest things that Capital could do is to pool a tiny amount of their resources and make Netflix and Youtube free for the masses. These are incredible tools for keeping the masses placated.

[-] 2Password2Remember@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago

one of the only good things about the stage of capitalism that we're in right now is that the capitalists are complete fucking idiots with no instincts for the preservation of their class. the competence has been fully bred out of them Habsburg-style at this point

Death to America

[-] Adkml@hexbear.net 40 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Conversely, they've realized the general population is even more servile and neutered then they expected and they are doing this to constantly reinforce there's nothing we can do and they'll make things as shitty as they want and nobody's gonna do anything about it. They're trying to soft sell us on being back in a feudal society and they're about 60% of the way there.

Working in exchange for housing with no pay is gonna be a thing again in our lifetimes.

"Now watch this drive" but about the inherent contradictions of capitalism.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 24 points 8 months ago

Honestly if they take us back to feudal relationships it makes it easier to do revolution because it completely decomplicates who the oppressors are to the average person. It makes the enemy easy to see. One of the biggest factors of capitalism that helps them prevent revs is how the enemy is less identifiable.

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[-] S4ck@hexbear.net 45 points 8 months ago

It's a shame the ruling class can't agree on anything if it gets in the way of their short term returns.

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

That's assuming Capital exists as a single centrally planned homogenate, rather than a set of competing factions all warring over the stream of revenue that media consumers produce. We did once try something akin to this, with the Public Broadcasting Service. And it was very successful, at least for a little while, in its effort to command a large audience and manipulate public opinion along a liberal ideological view.

But now we have a much more Anarcho-Capitalist approach to infotainment. We've implemented a tiered and tranched distribution of media services, from Talk Radio on the bottom-of-the-barrel free feed to Pay-Per-View streaming services on the high end. They all serve the same fundamental role as Netflix/Youtube, but the lower tiers tend to have a more vulgar and poorly produced advertising methodology.

And people still consume these channels voraciously. No shortage of folks who will suffer through five minute YouTube ads or who eventually buckle to the "Please Pay Me!!" pop-ups that soft gate the service. Similarly, Netflix has no trouble maintaining a subscriber pool of a quarter billion registered accounts (with households averaging north of 2 viewers).

The payment model serves two purposes. It forces people to register their participation - through an online account - and allows digital tagging and tracking of consumption habits. It also provides a threat of deprivation to disobedient proles. If you don't clock in, you won't have enough money to pay your bills. That includes entertainment. The cost isn't particularly prohibitive, even to the poorest economic cohorts. But you are required to buy in and sign up and maintain the account, which puts an onus on people to keep in the good graces of the capitalist managers.

As a wise man once said, if you're good at something never do it for free. joker-troll

[-] edge@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago

But how are the investors supposed to make money off of it?!

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[-] kleeon@hexbear.net 78 points 8 months ago

what is happening? Is big tech profitability collapsing? It seems like every big website is trying very hard to cut costs and find new sources of revenue right now

[-] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 89 points 8 months ago

i firmly believe it's the interest rate hike. the fed rate has been set to "free money" since the GFC in 2007.

[aside from a little blip between 2016 and COVID when rates were gradually increased up to a whopping 2% over 4 years before being flattened to "free money" when COVID hit].

now, in less than 1.5 years, it's gone from "free money" to 5.5%. that's enough to make "investors" [aka, people who negotiate giant loans from investment banks to invest in companies] squeamish about negotiating additional operating loans and pressuring executives to find money under the couch cushions, so to speak..

to be fair, i think the enshittification process of trying to squeeze a buck out of everything was inevitable to capitalism, but the rise of interest rates so high over such a short window set a fire under it.

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 67 points 8 months ago

i think the enshittification process of trying to squeeze a buck out of everything was inevitable to capitalism

you could even call it enclosure

Digital enclosure is exactly what it is. Reddit did it to forums but the squeeze right now is to fully enclose the attention economy itself.

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[-] grey_wolf_whenever@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago

it was never profitable. Its all sort of been a big scam from the beginning

[-] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago

the tech industry now is a lot like the 1800s rail industry in that it's changing society and hype drives investment but profitability just isn't there

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[-] axont@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

my guess is that gulf state monarchy investors (Saudi, Qatar, UAE etc) haven't been satisfied with the profit margins and are demanding more control over the companies, whereas American/European investors are possibly more focused on market share

could be rising competition from Chinese tech companies as well

It could also be a collapsing bubble where everyone's realizing personal data sold to advertising companies isn't as valuable as everyone assumed it was 15 years ago. They ran out of people to scoop data from. Everyone's already got every possible type of targeted ad pointed directly at their eyeballs 24/7. The market is cornered and there's nothing left to speculate on

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 35 points 8 months ago

I think this is normal Tendency of the Rate of Profit to Fall stuff

[-] Dr_Gabriel_Aby@hexbear.net 63 points 8 months ago

I go out of my way to follow the rules, like watching a sport even on the NBC website with their commercials, and then after ten minutes they say “you must sign in to your tv provider”.

So I get aboard my ship, put on my eyepatch and find the game in an Iranian server farm. I don’t want to be a pirate, they make me.

[-] CriticalOtaku@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

Trying to find the seasons of the One Piece anime that haven't been uploaded to Netflix yet (and were taken down from Crunchyroll and Funimation) turned me into the King of the Pirates. straw-hat-pirates

[-] roux@hexbear.net 32 points 8 months ago

A VPN and a decent sized hard drive with Jellyfin is way cheaper than 12 different streaming services that either all have the same shit, don't have the shit I want, or has ok original content that gets canceled after 2 seasons.

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[-] the_post_of_tom_joad@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Kinda off topic but I'm actually mad that one piece (live-action) is good because i know Netflix will ruin it somehow. I'm still frothingfash about the Witcher

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[-] Mokey@hexbear.net 55 points 8 months ago

I dont understand how there isnt a mass exodus from youtube already, whats keeping people there? If they pulled this shit in 2005 itd be done for.

[-] ImOnADiet@hexbear.net 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

massive backlog of content, only place creators can easily make money from uploading vids I'm pretty sure, so the big creators will never switch, and a lot of smaller creators have at least a fantasy of making it big if their vids go viral, if not a goal. Honestly a government would have to step in a break up YT at this point, it's got a monopoly on vids and I don't think any platform will ever be able to break it tbh.

[-] GaveUp@hexbear.net 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Boomer take

With the attention span of Zoomers and younger generations, TikToks will be everything that anybody needs as nobody can watch videos longer than 3 minutes anyways

[-] Iceman@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 8 months ago

There are two types of videos. 3 minute ticktoks and 2 hour video essays about "Hegelian philosophy hidden in the Adventures of the Gummi Bears"

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 26 points 8 months ago

zizek-theory Bouncing here and zhere, schniff, and everywhere, and scho on.

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[-] UmbraVivi@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People keep saying this but it really doesn't hold up. Moistcritikal videos get viewed like crazy and the guy posts 2-3 videos of himself rambling at a camera every day, each 10-20 minutes long, no jumpcuts or loud noises either. The daily Hasanabi videos are all easily 30 minutes long. Hell, MrBeast videos are all well over 10 minutes long as well. Wendigoon has seen a meteoric rise over the past year and his videos are all hour long stories about creeypasta stuff etc. Iceberg videos have been a huge trend and those are all really long as well.

The theory that people's attention spans keep getting shorter and people can't watch longer videos anymore doesn't match up with the trends on Youtube. Videos are not getting shorter, not at all.

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[-] Yurt_Owl@hexbear.net 47 points 8 months ago

Video hosting is expensive is the main reason. Only google has the money and they can't even make it profitable

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 46 points 8 months ago

That's the place where the videos are

[-] Feinsteins_Ghost@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

Whats stopping them? A couple things, is my guess.

How many hours of garbage are uploaded there, every minute? The bar for entry is nonexistent. All you need is a webcam.

YouTube will lose its crown eventually but there is nothing waiting in the wings as a replacement. Yet.

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

People did try to leave in the late 2000s/early 2010s

I remember when all the big critics (which were popular style of video at the time) movied to Blip.TV

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[-] Dirt_Owl@hexbear.net 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They want you to give them money or die

[-] Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml 49 points 8 months ago

Textbook enshittification. Rope them in, then pull the rug.

[-] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 48 points 8 months ago

You know, if they just simply kept ads to be some banner on the top and bottom of the page, maybe some image on the side that didn't interrupt you, the most intrusive thing being that the ad may be brightly colored and animated so your eye moves to it, nobody would EVER block ads. But they brought this upon themselves.

[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 44 points 8 months ago

Used to be that way, and we definitely blocked ads then too. Having seizure flashes in the corner of your eye is incredibly annoying

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[-] InternetLefty@hexbear.net 42 points 8 months ago

They cannot do it any other way. The vertical integration, the monopolization, the ridiculous amount of advertisement, it's all a race towards a shrinking profit. Carve out a smaller niche for advertising with targeted ads (just run your ads for the people who will actually buy your product!) but all you're doing is saturating an almost critically saturated market of advertisers. As the margins continue to shrink, my guess is you'll see a very shitty "free" tier and some very expensive memberships. The "enshittification" continues

[-] darkmode@hexbear.net 39 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I haven't seen this and i use ublock origin. Is there any context or other source liberalism ?

[-] enthusiasticamoeba@lemmy.ml 37 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They are slowly rolling it out; the reports have been trickling in for the past few weeks. Last I heard was firefox users getting hit. Apparently not even uBlock is immune.

[-] 187_Invitation@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago

You just have to keep updating it unfortunately. It's messing up my custom filter blocks which is annoying

https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/178yasm/youtube_antiadblock_and_ads_october_16_2023/

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 27 points 8 months ago

Apparently not even uBlock is immune

Can confirm, it sucks

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[-] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago

Replying directly to the image:

The endgame is for you to die!

[-] LeylaLove@hexbear.net 34 points 8 months ago

Shit's making me ready to kill myself tomorrow. No, Youtube adblock doesn't matter, most of my Youtube consumption happens on the TV app with my remote. This isn't about personally losing my bread and circuses, this is about how the best social medium we currently have is Youtube other such mediums like TikTok (don't even use it, but recognize it as extraordinarily important and innovative). But every way the ruling class forces us to change our lifestyle based on their ads borders on life ruining. Because it's not about the actual bread or the circuses, it's about elevating the bread and circuses, making them bigger and thinner than ever so we feel more satisfied but more starved.

[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 36 points 8 months ago

“Enshittification” is the academic term for the phenomenon

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[-] GarfieldYaoi@hexbear.net 33 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

What is their endgame?

Why do you care? The hell are you going to do about it? You're 4chan, You've been cheering on hellworld ever since you were born.

All they have to do is blame the Jews and you will be willing to DIE for the people that ruined your life, just so you can feel like you have power over something.

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[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 31 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I just blocked their blocking popup with ublock's "block element" feature.

Works fine but I can't scroll down to comments or see recommended videos anymore. Loss of those features is probably an improvement though tbh.

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[-] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 30 points 8 months ago

The cia need their mind control machine to make a profit

[-] GayTuckerCarlson@hexbear.net 25 points 8 months ago

live-tucker-reaction

I'll tell you their plan:

Take all red blooded, meat eating, toilet shitting, masculine patriots and kill their boners with advertising to stop conservatives from procreating. All the pink haired pro World War 3 consumers will become aroused by the ads, and will eventually outbreed conservativism and American Values. Conservative men today have no choice but blow each other just a little to get hard for procreation sex with their wives

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