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Makes me want to fly a Hezbollah flag myself.

I get your feeling of injustice, putting them into relation. But flying a Hezbollah flag doesn't change that, and doesn't support your argument. It just supports Hezbollah. You can criticize without supporting the next best worst opposition.

If you want to demonstrate the maximum amount of opposition, with disregard for anything else, it does that. And that may have some effect and value too.

But what's your goal, and who do you want to reach? Who will you push away by flying a flag of a terrorist organisation (looking at what they did, irrelevant why they came to be and act the way they do for now)? Isn't supporting Palestine and Palestinians, demonstrating for their right to exist and live, and against Israel's terror - isn't that just as viable? Isn't that the goal? I don't think there's a need to support Hezbollah or fly their flag for that?

Israel should definitely be held to the same standards, which it currently is not.

Hezbollah has killed far more Arabs than they ever damaged Israel. Without Hezbollah Assad would have lost in Syria years ago. They have also turned Lebanon into a failed state for decades.

Hezbollah are horrible all around. They are ineffective at fighting Israel and great at killing Arabs.

You should probably post this in a politics-focused community. Technically non-US politics are okay according to the rules, but I still don't think this is the place for this. That said I completely reject "terrorist" and "terrorist organization" as labels, so while I don't know who that is they should be raise even an ISIS (or worse, Israeli) flag if they want to.

You have to ask yourself why he didn't simply wave a Palestinian flag? Why did he choose a proscribed terrorist flag? Did he not understand the difference (useful idiot syndrome) or he did and genuinely wanted to promote a terrorist group?

It's the same thing as at a previous concert shouting "Kill your local MP". 🤷

It's ridiculous. And I'm someone talking from a Protestant/Unionist background from Belfast.

Basically, Kneecap has had provocative music which hits at home about distrusting police, burning police vehicles, dressing in PIRA attire. The PIRA is a very real terrorist organisation at home. One could argue that kneecap could be directly or indirectly encouraging terrorist activity at home or inspiring people to follow in the PIRA's footsteps via attitude. They also advocated for killing MPs.

But somehow, the line is crossed when they display a flag of a foreign terrorist organisation halfway across the world.

So the way the law is acting, it's as if Kneecap is more likely to inspire Hezbollah to cause a terrorist attack instead of an Irish dissident at home. Which I think everyone can agree is ridiculous conclusion to make. But that's the conclusion the law has seemed to made. Basically, something is up.

Now, I'm not saying they should be prosecuted for their other material either. I'm just saying that this whole thing doesn't make sense that the line is crossed on a foreign terrorist movement not relevant to us.

Something is up.

He shouldn't have flown the flag, supporting a terrorist organisation (like hamas, hezbollah or the IDF) is objectively wrong.
There is a double standard though.

GDF has a great video on how the Israeli invasion and civil war led to the creation of Hezbollah as a militant resistance

I prefer the American version of freedom of speech, which places very strict limits on the government's ability to punish speech. Display of any flag in this way would be protected. We're currently seeing that play out with the US president taking various actions against people who have expressed opinions he doesn't like and getting blocked by the courts at every turn.

That said, Hezbolah is bad and Liam O'Hanna is an asshole for supporting them.

I think we should all be highly alarmed, world citizens who value peace and prosperity, palestinians and jews alike.