Season 6 episode 26

I approve of any leftist as long as they are anti-authoritarian.

so that it appears leftists are always fighting since they are all lumped into the same category.

I always say it is because the left in general has its roots in old school liberal value of "think for yourself". So there typically tends to be maverick attitude and in-fighting. The best example is the Spanish Republicans during the Spanish Civil War; you have soc dems, communists and anarchists fighting together not just against fascists, but also themselves. The right, meanwhile value order and hierarchy, so they tend to easily set aside their differences. Again, the Spanish Civil War is the best example, with the Spanish Nationalists also composed of various factions with competing agenda, but managed to set aside their differences, which made it easier to do because they had a strong man figure to rally to.

For me, it makes much more sense to think about it all as pop culture. I'll use America but this goes for any country.

The right leaning party represents pop culture. A dominant culture. The popular culture is American Apple pie and blue jeans with letter jackets.

The left represents everything outside the pop culture bubble. It's a larger population as a whole, but they're like little bubbles they all contain their own culture. Those cultures can conflict or merge and compliment each other. But they're individually separate.

The pop culture is always feeling threatened. It needs to maintain the status quo. Every outside sub culture is trying to fight their way into the dominant culture.

So this is why the right leaning voters trend towards rejecting things like immigrants, minorities, LGQTB and often other sub groups that are not wildly accepted by the pop culture. This is also why the left leaning groups do not. They trend towards infighting about how to do things but overall they all focus efforts on taking status away from the pop culture.

When I view politics as a clash between pop culture and sub cultures, it makes so much of it make so much more sense.

Which is also why I believe this is useful because it highlights how to win. Pop culture is much more sensitive to culture jamming. If anyone remembers 'yes men save the world' they were buried a bit, but they managed to fuck with so many things in pretty smart ways. You can really start to see how to focus efforts on them with this context I think at least.

Fun fact, I once alluded to this on reddit's worldnews and they associated me with Hitler because apparently trying to say there is more than one dimension is trying to whitewash Nazism.

Troll factories can get defensive, don't touch what they work with.

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It's a dubious place to be in. Those that believe in the system, and working within it...and the dangers of working outside of it...are realizing that there is no in-the-system countermeasure to those willing to work outside-the-system.

Those who believe in law and order can't use law and order to wrangle in...the majority of the "law" and "order" that are working in extra-legal and extra-ordinary ways.

Edit to add. We've been down this road before. Look at 1930s Germany. Not everyone was down with Dolfy. But we know how trying to fix it inside the system ended up.

Political ideology is a spectrum, and I feel that Leftists tend to be as hostile towards those they deem ‘not as left’ as them, just as much as they are towards Fascists, Neo-Cons and their ilk.

It’s basically the no true Scotsman fallacy manifest.

Unfortunately all the wanna-be Pol Pots out there also consider themselves to be leftists.

I'm always under the assumption that everyone can be an asshole. I had a very good friend qnd we're both vegans. To me it's just a dietary choice that i made, for her it was almost like a religion. Like when she met someone who was also a vegan or saw someone on tv that was a vegan, she always assumed that it's a good person, or just rooted for that person, no questions asked.

Sucks that the system in the USA is broken but until it's fixed and we have more than two parties, democrats are the left.

You can't tell me how to anarchy bro

Futurama is just a slightly different Simpsons!

We are enemies now