Leading financial figures on Wall Street made a show of saying they would not employ Harvard students who signed the statement blaming Israel for the Hamas attack. A billboard truck drove around Harvard campus displaying the pictures and names of the students, and their addresses and other details were published on websites.

That's some intense and coordinated propaganda.

The boomers spent a lifetime equating blind, unconditional support of israel to benevolence, in the same way they blindly equate being anti abortion to being pro life despite supporting little to no assistance for unwanted children and unwilling mothers. Its FREE and it sounds pretty at face value so they made it their position.

I can read and see the white hot hatred of boomers in power over the fact that younger generations don't value an Israeli life over a Palestinian life or vice versa. It literally seems to dumbfound them that we didn't come to their same shallow from the inception conclusion. Sorry, fuck your team sports, and fuck all the imaginary friends you use to rationalize killing real human beings that exist here in reality. I would never pick a religion or a skin tone to determine who is more worthy to love.

And the fact is, neither the Israeli government or Hamas that controls the Palestinian government take care to spare civilian life. That isn't a Hamas thing, that is a this conflict thing.

And the Israeli government is the force with more responsibility to temper their response for 2 reasons: They're a much larger military. Something something power, something something responsibility, peter parker. Israel always gets a global pass retaliating against Palestinian civilians when Hamas attacks Israeli soldiers, which doesn't exactly scream "keep our civilians out of this." And 2: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip

You can't run the world's largest open air prison, largely filled with people guilty of no crime, and get credibly angry when the prisoners robbed of hope turn to desparation and vengeance.

There are no heroes in this conflict, and with the blood dripping off both parties, Im inclined to be more supportive of the force less capable of defending themselves and their side's civilians.

https://m.thewire.in/article/world/chart-6407-palestinians-and-308-israelis-killed-in-violence-in-last-15-years

This is the first year in a long time that could be considered a conflict, rather than a globally sanctioned, continuous slaughter.

I support the civilians. Both governments can go slather themselves in honey and take a hike in bear country.

Can’t both sides be driven by bloodlust? It’s all horrific and a never-ending cycle of pain and rage.

Fucking great! That's what universities are for. Debate.

What a shame. These “smart” people should be leading by example and coming together in solidarity against violence on all sides. What a great image that would have been to see both groups protesting the war together. Fools.

Even if you sympathize with the colonizers, how is the seige of Gaza an appropriate response? Murdering over a million innocents for what?

"They do not want us to live" is a catch phrase. Anyone else notice that? Like its a meme for this event but like it does something.

How do these phrases catch on so fast now. Its crazy.

I wonder if it's possible to have a well informed, polite, nuanced, and empathetic debate on this, that recognizes the complexity of the situation, existing grievances, and existing hurt.

Given the level of comments you always read on contentious subjects like this one, it's almost impossible on the internet. People have gotten so used to being rude to each other, shouting at each other, not actually listening, the kind of behaviour that would get you punched in the face in real life.

Except now people are taking this style of 'debate' to the real world. People screaming at each other without listening. What's the point? Is it fun? Does it convince anyone? Does it actually solve anything?

Maybe it helps alienated people feel like they belong. Even if in the long term it actually means you end up becoming increasingly radicalised and ultimately even more alienated from your actual friends, family and neighbours.