Those who've seen lower decks should know why this is not a good idea!
this post was submitted on 30 Apr 2025
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Best we can do is "Sr. Ensign in Charge of the Other Ensigns"
Acting interim Sr. in Charge of other Ensigns
Until he got demoted again and became able to be bossed around by all of the other ensigns.
Actually, according to an okudagram in PRO, he is at least a full Lieutenant by 2384 in the prime timeline.
Pretty sure he's Captain Kim in STO, and I think that was true before they decided that STO was a different timeline.
Never played STO, is it still online?
Yep, and it's worth it to go through the stories free to play
Awesome! I'll install it on my PC today. Any suggestions you might have for a newbie?
Save all your limited currency, (not the credits) for end game. It's pretty simple if you're familiar with MMOs
Smart thinking, any server suggestions or which side to go with?
Dunno how many servers there are. There may only be one per continent/ region. I treat the game as a single player game. I just made a character for each faction, federation, Klingon, and romulan.
Suppose that makes sense, see all the content. Guess I'll just jump in lol.
I haven't played in a couple years, but start with Federation side as it has more content geared towards it.
Type of Captain (sci/tac/eng) is your preference as all content can be done as any type.
Don't bother with PVP.
Theres only 2 'servers' to choose from if I remember correctly the main server and a test server.
That makes sense, I'll start there. Any suggestion on what type of captain you would suggest? 🤔
Tac is probably the easiest to start out with. It's what I run as my main Fed.
Engineer and Science need a bit more effort to use properly.
You can have a decent amount of characters, so there's no issues starting a new character in a different profession to see what it's like. (Also allowing you to have Federation and Klingon Captains.)
Also look for active promo codes. You can get a lot of good stuff with them.
He can sit on the council, but…
'somebody has to be the ensign'
--rick berman (probably)
'demotes Paris back to Ensign'
— I need more Ensigns!
Paris makes Janeway laugh:
Grow a pair and stop being a suck up my man, look at Paris, he was a convicted criminal, in jail and he got promoted demoted and promoted. just think, what would Janeway do? Moan about it or boot that door down and demand your damn promotion.
Stop being a bitch Harry Kim and grab that promotion by the balls.
Spotted the multiverse Lt. Kim.
Multiverse Kim is evidence of why you don't promote Kims. They turn evil.
That's harry fucking kim to you.
No shit. How many times did he die?
Or kidnapped‽ Harry's a survivor
But promotions should be earned.
True, but then we have to account for Prime Kim dying and being replaced by Phase-shift Kim. Per Starfleet protocol, that crewman has to start from the ground up. That process runs roughly 4 years just to make it from cadet to ensign.
Yeah, he should be glad he wasn't demoted to crewman at that point
Are "Phase-shifted crewman" even considered in Starfleet protocol? It's not a "Mirror, Mirror" parallel universe, it's just a light time variance. They should still be considered starfleet graduates, if it's a light phase/time-shift and not a parallel universe... I think?
Jokes aside, I would view this more as a Thomas Riker situation - Voyager was split in two in that moment. Both Kims were the same Kim before the divergence field, so both Kims have the same record before then.
In truth, probably part of Kim being stuck at one rank was probably because of a lack of transfers from Voyager, for obvious reasons - it's practically raining promotions on the Cerritos for instance, and transfer seems relatively frequent in Lower Decks.
The fact he never got promoted suggests otherwise.
But he came back and was still Ensign?
You said they should still be considered Starfleet if they're time-shifted. I'm saying protocol accounts for it and once you're time shifted you get frozen in rank. Forever!
I'm just messing with you. I think he never got promoted as a message between the lines to the actor, who at that point was merely saved from show death by appearing in a good looking Asians list or something weird like that. They never promoted Kim as a reflection on Wang's standing with the production team.
I mean, by the next ~~episode~~ day everybody seems to have forgotten that he's from another timeline so there's that.
My favorite forever ensign
Honestly what is the point of a promotion when you are stuck on a ship 70 years from home and money no longer matters anyway?
He's not going to get paid more because there is no pay and hes not going to get a significantly different position on the ship because the talent pool is limited to the ship itself. so the "promotion" would just be performative anyway.
Once they return to earth there would be some tangible benefits which is convenient because then he DID get a promotion to Lieutenant and took over as chief of security and tactical officer. Eventually he was promoted to Commander at star base 11
Isn’t he captain when they make it back to earth in the final episodes?
Yeah but that timeline, admins all it's mistakes, got wiped out