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[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (3 children)

The Pope didn't even say anything incorrect at all in the video. He didn't explicitly say the boy's dad went to heaven, just said that God smiles upon the dad's act of baptizing his children. What, was the Pope supposed to tell the kid that his baptism didn't count and God looks down at him with scorn like some kind of illegitimate child?

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

What, was the Pope supposed to tell the kid that his baptism didn't count

If you don't baptize the kid with holy water from the Champagne region of Heaven, you don't get embraced with God's True Love. You just get sparkling salvation.

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yes. sins of the father and all

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 16 points 2 years ago

I mean, if we're supposed to take religion seriously as anything other than the purposefully explicit backdrop of bigoted fascism, then yes words should mean things.

[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

berdly-actually your father is NOT in heaven, grieving child

[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago

Jesus probably wants you to bully the kid who's dad died if you really think about it

[–] Frank@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"Christ's vicar on earth is wrong!" is one of my favorite American catholic takes.

Like bruh. bruv. bro. Stop and think about what you just said.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Imagine being Catholic and hating the Pope, hilarious

[–] Outdoor_Catgirl@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

That's just called being protestant

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[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago

Being angry at the pope for not responding to the kid "Another kkkrakkka Down" visible-disgust

[–] zifnab25@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

Dogmatic ritualized gibberish clearly states that my fantasy of your dead father involves him being boiled in a big pot for eternity, and if you can't tell a dead man's kids that you're not doing them any favors.

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago

"No Timmy your dad is burning in hell because he didn't follow the bible" I say as a devout and pious Catholic.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 32 points 2 years ago (7 children)

It's not fucking heresy ffs this guy has less theological knowledge than a 13th century peseant.

[–] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Honestly when you look at the medieval peasant religious movements in the 13th and 14th centuries the presence of visionary women is really striking, of which Joan of Arc is only the most obvious. Many of the most important mystic writers were women. Probably were also the best. So I expect many of them would have known far more about Christianity that this fuckhead.

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[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Protestants are fuckin' weird

Just living in a state of barely contained rage about people they're never going to actually meet

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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (5 children)

It does seem inconsistent with a loving God that he would damn people eternally for not saying the right things.

Luther's theory of people being given a chance to convert after death seems much more reasonable than this for example

Calvinists will say with a straight face that God is Just and Merciful while believing that God arbitrarily selects some people for salvation and damnation based on nothing they have done and will just torture most people forever despite that being definitionally arbitrary and cruel

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (6 children)

The thing is, and my fellow Christians gasp when they hear this: Jews don't believe in Hell. Jesus was a Jew. A rabbi even. Jesus Christ did not have a concept of hell and you will not find a verse where he talks about people suffering for eternity.

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[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

It is a matter of Catholic Doctrine that he does not and salvation is possible without the sacraments even at the moment of death.

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[–] Tofu_Lewis@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago (5 children)

Having a liberation theology Pope has really made those masks fall off - I love it.

[–] Mardoniush@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (4 children)

He's not LibTheo, he spent his career trying to stop the Jesuit left. He's just not a frothing conservative.

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[–] boiledfrog@hexbear.net 30 points 2 years ago

A few weeks ago, the Pope visited Marseille and said that we should stop drowning people in the mediterranean sea and welcome them.

The Christian right has been losing it's mind ever since, it's really hilarious.

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[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago

Pretty big accusation for one who rejects the divine miracle of transubstantiation

[–] Facebones@reddthat.com 21 points 2 years ago

"I'm gay am I going to hell?"

FUCK YEAH BUDDY DON'T EVEN BOTHER TRYING YOU KISSED A NOT EAT FUCKING SHIT SO

"My dad claimed to be faithful even though he cheated on my mom 50 times am I going to hell?"

Yeah that's fine women aren't people anyway 🤷

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

"L Atheist father. Packwatch rip bozo. Get fucked kid" -Poop

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago

kid wouldn't be worried about hell if you didn't traumatize kids with the threat of it.

no credit for weaseling out of a problem you created

[–] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

Universal reconciliation, babe, all are saved

"get bent kid" - the pope

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago

Rejected because of a technicality. Even heaven is Kafkaesque.

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