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cross-posted from: https://feddit.org/post/9451996

Thoughts on features to boost intent for posting more?

Like a karma system of that other forum website.

I currently miss a point system to motivate me that shows people via my profile how much I could help by posting/commenting. There's no system to create such feedback currently on Lemmy.

Are there statements by the creators of this platform about that?

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Karma? The system that encouraged people to make the most milquetoast posts to appeal as many users as possible? Karma farming heavily reduced quality on reddit.

No thank you. We need some sort of encouragement but karma is not it.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 1 points 2 days ago

thats where I wanted the discussion to go! What could that be?

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[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Seeing a lot of upvotes on a post or comment feels nice, seeing that mass social approval of whatever my contribution was. But I also never had any interest in engaging in low-effort posts to get that same reward. I also think the Lemmy hivemind disapproves of low-effort posts like that so such behavior would not be rewarded.

I do wonder what motivated people who made low-effort posts for karma, and why I don't seem to see it here even though we share an upvote/downvote system. Identifying that might help us at least figure out what not to do so that we do not set up a system that encourages that behavior. We do still clearly have the ability to see upvotes on posts and comments.

It is also possible I'm seeing low-effort posts but they are not rewarded as heavily and I mentally dismiss it as "just someone trying to get any activity going on the Fediverse at all." I sometimes just post a link and let it be because it's relevant to the community, I thought it was cool, and I'd like to see some Fediverse activity there but don't really have anything original to say. It's possible the low-effort posts are not rewarded not because the Lemmy hivemind disapproves of low effort but because they just don't see it in the tiny little community I posted in that receives maybe an average of 3 upvotes per post.

For what it's worth, I'm not using "Lemmy hivemind" in a derogatory fashion here, I just mean it as "the general sentiment of most Lemmy users".

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 18 hours ago

maybe there could be different types of communites. Some where people contribute original stuff (main communities/most of the platform in numbers) where irregulatity doesnt matter

And some selected Rss-feed like communities with repost bots of top articles. To give you regular updates on certain topics and offer discussion for everyone in there ... I quite liked my local news sub for that (r/de): Rather than just algorithm based news apps that try to influence you the most with their headlines, I got to see what people thought of certain quoted parts in the article

.. but I see how the platform got destroyed by that too.. Idk

[–] Microw@lemm.ee 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Karma is not a good system.

I do agree however that additional features to encourage posting and engagement would be good for Lemmy.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

what do you have in mind whne mentioning this?

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I like contributing to a community and see it climb the ladder https://lemmyverse.net/communities?order=active

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The Alexandrite front end for Lemmy has a feature called "Vibe Check" that shows a user's positive or negative score in each community they post within. It is a nice check for spotting trolls quickly, or even if a person "trolls" in one community but not others. If you scroll down their profile past around the first ~30 comments/posts (Alexandrite is infinite scrolling), it will score the vibe check on however many comments/posts are loaded which is usually 100 loaded when past this ~30 mark.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

like here? I dont see it yet

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

You must be logged in. I think it is incorporating the user's block list but there may be other factors. I have not looked at the code used to implement the feature.

[–] hitstun@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

Wow, Alexandrite is really good now! I wish I could try that Vibe Check tool, but it only appears when logged in, and I'm an Mbin user.

[–] gon@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IDK, if you want to post, you post. I don't feel that encouragement is really needed.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

many posts have alot of likes but no comments altough its like questions or a discussion based post

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yep, this happens to me and it's kind of frustrating.

When I see a discussion-based post or question I do try to answer because I know the Fediverse needs engagement and I know what it is like being on the other side. But sometimes I truly just have nothing to offer and the fact I don't have a good answer isn't interesting enough to be worth posting (for example, "What is your favorite football team and why?" in some general ask community. I do not have one so I can't participate in the intended discussion, but that it isn't special or unique to not have a favorite football team either, so talking about that wouldn't add a fresh perspective to the discussion. I'd just feel like a party pooper typing that I don't have one as a response to that hypothetical post). So I say nothing. Or people are arguing and getting hostile over it, and I am not interested in getting in a fight myself. Or what I do have to offer feels very very spammy and generic ("picture looks good!").

[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don't worry, you have the good approach. If anything, that's a sign we need more generic communities so that everyone can contribute

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 19 hours ago

Yea its really hard to not compare here. But comparing while in the 'growing' stage of the platform is very wrong.

Ive noticed too and after some time I will maybe understand more in how to see and use lemmy. I just wish it was instantly as fullfilling as reddit was in terms of content

[–] gon@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

Well, yeah, that happens.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 7 points 2 days ago (11 children)

I don't miss karma being a thing (and people focusing on growing it by pleasing as many as possible, instead of focusing on content) but I'm also past the age of getting good/bad grades for doing my homework or for participating in class ;)

I'm pretty sure introducing karma will boost low effort reddit-like posts. And those don't need any encouragement, imho.

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[–] jjagaimo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Maybe try to get used to how lemmy is instead of immediately trying to change it into a carbon copy of reddit.

I prefer being able to separately see the number of down votes.

Also your redditisms are a great reminder of how people here talk normally instead of exclusively in quips

[–] Elevator7009sAlt@ani.social 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What Redditisms are you speaking of? The OP seems to be talking normally, I don't really see any quips.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago

Ye I just see the content holes and a big reactive userbase.. Also I browse alot and dont see that much media/links in communities that are based on giving you regular posts/slice of currents, does that make sense?

I know karma has its problems, I just want the discussion to be about what features could help combat this conflict.

[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Jfc, no.

Karma was part of the problem with reddit, we don't need or want it here

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[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Currency is not inspiration.

I'd rather have cooperation instead of competition as primary incentive: "If I post quality content, others might want to post quality content as well"

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

fair take, so you say additional no features at all or could you see something have potential to encourage regular posts?

[–] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 16 hours ago

I just accidentally deleted a long text (Lemmy-UI has bad button placing), but the gist is social problems of the following communities as examples:

The existing users are afraid to tell stories of their own, which would create positive feedback loop of engagement.

[–] crimeschneck@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Some instances disable downvotes. This is an important thing to consider for anything related to post/comment scores.

Edit: I also fear that a karma system would encourage just sticking with the overall Lemmy, instance or community mainstream, more than it is now already the case with up/downvotes and how they affect the sorting of posts/comments.

[–] arakhis_@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you mean like small communites would have it harder with that system?

[–] crimeschneck@feddit.nl 2 points 2 days ago

I'm mostly referring to possibly controversial posts or comments. Some users might not want to risk losing "karma" and therefore avoid making such posts or comments, even if they don't break rules and are an interesting contribution to a community or discussion.

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