Soooo can we declare Purdue Pharmaceutical and the Sackler family terrorists organization under that rhetoric? Asking for a friendly nation.
this post was submitted on 19 Mar 2025
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Wasn't there a bust of like 1000 lbs of fentanyl crossing the border from the US into Canada recently?
So now Canada has 1000 lbs of WMD!
I believe there was, but Donny dumbass doesn’t care about that.
Serious question, should I get a gun?
Why? To give it liberals wneh carney proceeds with "buyback"?
Get a drone instead and learn to operate it
The statistics are overwhelmingly clear; the most likely person to be killed by a gun is its owner.
Yah show me those statistics cause I highly doubt that.
https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2014/01/111286/access-guns-increases-risk-suicide-homicide
https://time.com/6183881/gun-ownership-risks-at-home/
It makes sense, more proximity to a weapon is more potentially deadly encounters. An intruder very rarely enters your house, but you pass the gun safe in your closet every day.
Yes
No, fentanyl might be more effective at mass destruction. /s (obviously)
The only resistance that could stand a chance against the US army would be organized by the Canadian government, in which case they’d provide you with the weapon.
It's this that "newspeak" I've been hearing about?
Oh for fuck sakes.
Alright, folks. Time to get on !MapleResistance@lemmy.ca, !Canada@50501.chat, and !resist@fedia.io. !preppers@lemmy.ca could use some love too
Fentanyl is the preferred opiate in hospitals. Cheaper per dose. US used to be able to "influence" Afghanistan to help its drug trade profits. Fentanyl is cheap because it doesn't need controlled plants in addition to potency.
Hard to get an exact number for hospital theft amount of fentanyl, but
3,600 cases of alleged drug theft at healthcare facilities over the last five years, including 280 cases so far in 2020.
111,000 instances here where the folks that were reviewing [drug inventories] could not figure out why the math didn't add up,"
What is almost certain is that US healthcare system is a larger source of illegal fentanyl than Canada. If the absurdity that it is a WMD is taken, there should be military security around hospitals before it's placed at the borders.
The death potential of the vial of Anthrax Colin Powell quoted to UN was based on using an eye dropper to kill individuals one by one. WMDs actually require mass deaths from one event as a definition.
Canada needs to immediately stop military cooperation with US. Kick them out of NORAD unless they pay high rent. Stop threatening US enemies, and accepting them as our own.
yep, when my wife was giving birth, they gave her Fentanyl.
Guess all hopsitals are terrorists.
Those photos of WMDs? They were balls.
Hands down one of the best shows ever!!
Not guns?
Trump right now.
Can we just FFW to the end? Pretty please?
End of what? We all will end up dead sooner or later
For a guy who said he wasn't gonna go to war, he sure as fuck sounds like a guy getting ready for war.
I just hope the economy finally crashes before he gets the chance.
Here comes the "special military operation", but it's not a declaration of war so he doesn't need congressional approval.
Actually thanks to the 2001 AUMF he doesn't need Congress as long as it's part of the (still ongoing, never officially ended) "war on terror". Which, presumably, would include stopping WMDs.
If you want peace, prepare for war.
I'm not being facetious and I'm not joking, and I don't think he is either.
Should have acquired nukes. This is the message.
CANDU !
suitcase nukes pretty easy to access for nations that have different friends than US.
He's so far outside the box predictions don't work anymore. But food for thought; Americans associate drugs with Mexico far more than any other country. So this would be one hell of a head whip for the general public. Americans also still consider Canada one of our closest friends on the global stage. Many families in the North span the border. For that fact alone there's a very good chance that if he attacks Canada we'd shut this country down with protests and strikes.
On a rational predictable level he's already declared cartels to be terrorists and Venezuela to be a terrorist state. This is very likely another tool to pressure the Mexican government.
That said, I wouldn't trust us right now. We're like that friend who took too much cocaine and is hiding in the closet with a gun. Unpredictable and dangerous.
Your optimism as to how the American people would react is cute, but likely not realistic. There's a huge chunk of Americans who voted for this, there's another huge chunk that didn't care to even bother voting. The thought that someone who couldn't be arsed to spend an hour popping in to vote, would get organized and take up arms -- especially on behalf of other people / principles / morals -- is a bit of a stretch.
Here's the thing. The way the American highway system works is it goes from city to city. And millions of people in the northern cities voted against him. We don't need to shut down the roads in the rural red areas. His Canadian state idea also wasn't a part of his campaign and many Americans still think it's nothing more than him being his normal blathering self. So we aren't seeing true opposition get captured in polling yet.
I agree that he's dangerous. And I don't know what we could do to stop him but I am absolutely sure the military would suffer high rates of desertion compared to orders to invade Panama, Mexico, or Venezuela. I am also sure that Congress would not use the war powers act to stop him in any invasion, nor would he listen to them if they did. So whatever has to happen is up to the people, and there are at least 80 million pissed off Americans right now. You're right that I can't guarantee anything on their behalf. I can only offer an inside perspective and my apologies.
Speaking for myself, someone with family and friends in the US, I don't trust you one bit right now - your current government is an enemy to Canada, period.
Yeah, I’m not really sure Americans would shut down their country at this point. For one thing, they seem incapable of protesting. More importantly though, Republicans seem fully sold on an invasion and even some Democrats seem rather excited to use us to “move their politics left” (as if we’d get the right to vote)
In the read out from the PCC meeting on Friday, it says the participating agencies “recognize the need for the United States to take strong action to counter this devastating situation, but these bureaus share significant policy concerns with the Executive Order as drafted.”
Those concerns include the fact that the EO “cites a statute that does not entail an authority to ‘designate’ substances as WMD,” concerns about “negative effects on entities that legitimately handle, ship, and deliver opioids for pharmaceutical purposes,” and acknowledges that “fentanyl can be treated as a chemical weapon when it is developed or used as a weapon…which risks muddying clearly defined roles and responsibilities between the counternarcotics, counterproliferation, and arms control communities.”
Trump has blown by just blurring the lines since he was sworn in. He's wiping them out completely.
I agree that this is just so he has reason to continue his attacks, I am guessing it will be aimed at Mexico but Canada needs to be ready.
It’s interesting that this 2019 article shows this idea isn’t a new one - https://edition.cnn.com/2019/04/21/politics/dhs-fentanyl-wmd/index.html
The fact that they were considering back then has me wondering if this apparently leaked draft EO might have actual substance to it, which is disturbing to say the least.
Mexican cartels and elements of the heroin trade have been known to use fentanyl as an additive to increase the potency of other illegal drugs.
He's already invoked the alien enemies act against Venezuelan cartels, effectively declaring war on Venezuela. He's setting up a shooting war in Central America.
No, he did not effectively declare war on Venezuela, which is exactly why his use of the act was immediately blocked by courts. He's trying to use a law designed for times of war without actually being in a war with the people he wants to target.
That war is how he is going to solve the economic crisis resulting from hia isolationist tariffs.
Someone call Hans Blix, we gotta find them WMDs in Canada. Funny if they dont find any.
First as tragedy, then as farce
Yes, www.thehandbasket.co seems like a reputable, reliable source. /s
The Handbasket is run by Marisa Kabas who is a well respected independent journalist who has broken several stories about rumoured Trump EOs that turned out to be accurate.
Even if it isn't, possibility is surely here.
If this goes forward, we have to pay close atention. This certainly is looking for two goals, short and long term. Short is Canada and Mexico. Long term is China
this will stop it, of course! I declare it done!!!!!!
I used to order a powered reascearch chemical dmt into the states legally. There are no laws banning it. But i wont anymore since theres no telling what could happen now. Any white powered could land me into so much trouble.