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[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Court documents regarding Facebook's plagiarism lawsuit just started getting unsealed, and ho-lee shit is this a treasure trove:

This confirms basically everything I said a week ago - AI violates copyright by design, and a single copyright suit going through means its open fucking season on the AI industry. Wonder who's gonna blink first.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 7 points 4 days ago

Our local pro entertainment industry lobby group (the kind of group who gets thepiratebay blocked, Brein) is already succesfully going after smaller LLMs and datasets created by (and made freely available) over enthousiastic amateurs/hobbyist which breach copyright.

This might seem like a positive thing, but I doubt they will have the willpower/power/desire to go after the big ones. (And even then not sure they are the good guys here).

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 12 points 5 days ago

New thread from Baldur Bjarnason:

Keep hearing reports of guys trusting ChatGPT’s output over experts or even actual documentation. Honestly feels like the AI Bubble’s hold over society has strengthened considerably over the past three months

This also highlights my annoyance with everybody who’s claiming that this tech will be great if every uses it responsibly. Nobody’s using it responsibly. Even the people who think they are, already trust the tech much more than it warrants

Also constantly annoyed by analysis that assumes the tech works as promised or will work as promised. The fact that it is unreliable and nondeterministic needs to be factored into any analysis you do. But people don’t do that because the resulting conclusion is GRIM as hell

LLMs add volatility and unpredictability to every system they touch, which makes those systems impossible to manage. An economy with pervasive LLM automation is an economy in constant chaos

On a semi-related note, I expect the people who are currently making heavy use of AI will find themselves completely helpless without it if/when the bubble finally bursts, and will probably struggle to find sympathy from others thanks to AI indelibly staining their public image.

(The latter part is assuming heavy AI users weren't general shitheels before - if they were, AI's stain on their image likely won't affect things either way. Of course, "AI bro" is synonymous with "trashfire human being", so I'm probably being too kind to them :P)

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

oh would you look at that, something some people made proved helpful and good, and now cloudflare is immediately taking the idea to deploy en masse with no attribution

double whammy: every one of the people highlighted is a dude

"it's an original idea! we're totes doing the novel thing of model synthesis to defeat them! so new!" I'm sure someone will bleat, but I want them to walk into a dark cave and shout at the wall forever

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

(anubis isn't strictly the same in that set of things, but I link it both because completeness and subject relevance)

[–] FredFig@awful.systems 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

https://github.com/TecharoHQ/anubis/issues/50 and of course we already have chatgptfriends on the case of stopping the mean programmer from doing something the Machine doesn't like. This person doesn't even seem to understand what anubis does, but they certainly seem confident chatgpt can tell him.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

oh cute, the clown cites[0] POPIA in their wallspaghetti, how quaint

(POPIA’s an advancement, on paper. In practice it’s still…..not working well. source: me, who has tried to make use of it on multiple occasions. won’t get into details tho)

[0] fsvo

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 14 points 6 days ago

r/cursor is the gift that keeps on giving:

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 11 points 6 days ago (3 children)

A Bluesky post by Jamelle Bouie prompted me to reflect on how I resent that my knowledge of toxic nerd deep lore is now socially relevant.

alt textBreaking Bad meme. Jesse: They always say "Read the Sequences", right?

Walter White:

Jesse: But the Sequences are all cult shit, like everything Yud says about quantum mechanics

Jesse: It's all "The scientists are insufficiently Rational(TM) to see the truth, don't trust the scientists, trust me instead"

Walter White: Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about

[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 13 points 6 days ago

alt textDrunk woman yelling into man's ear (meme image). Captioned as though she is speaking:

Their foundational text is a Harry Potter fanfic that supposedly teaches science

but it gets 9th-grade biology wrong by fucking up Punnett squares

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That 'uses an iq chart from a tabloid mag' thread reminded me how bad the Lw Rationalists are at Lw Rationality. It is supposed to help you be less biassed, but nope first google hit from a bad source and almost zero community pushback, because it confirms their bias about IQ, and the relative value of fields.

[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 10 points 5 days ago

Overcoming Bias (by renaming "bias" into "priors")

[–] o7___o7@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago

I felt this one

[–] sc_griffith@awful.systems 11 points 6 days ago (1 children)

interesting masto thread on doge's use of AI, from someone who helped build their LLM:

https://elk.zone/carhenge.club/@skiles/114203147063483693

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

from someone who helped build their LLM

Nice to get a look on the inside from one of the 21st-century Oppenheimers.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

lol, that's too charitable to them, nukes at least work

continuing this tortured analogy for no particular reason:oppenheimer/sutskever: we finally have a nuke to drop on nazis

groves/?: nazis?

teller/saltman: at long last, we have a chatbot capable of polluting the entire earth and internet

szilard/EY: and that's why we shouldn't build it (gets ignored)

teller/saltman: also we need billions of dollars for it and effects will be the same if it's deployed in backyard

musk would be general ripper i guess, they had no ketamine back then. deepseek is new dubna and both caused diplomatic incidents. thiel would be one of these people that didn't focus on that thing but instead on other things that make the former work (enablers) that would be missiles and surveillance

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

lol, that’s too charitable to them, nukes at least work

And Oppie realised the gravity of their invention. And he was trying to end the Second World War with them, not make money by causing untold suffering.

Nukes and AI both represented a new and unique threat capable of causing worldwide devastation, so I'd say the analogy works pretty well.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 5 days ago

when bubble pops, chatbots will vanish but nukes will remain for a long time

[–] BlueMonday1984@awful.systems 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

In other news, IETF 127 (which is being held in November) is facing a boycott months in advance. The reason? Its being held in the United States.

This likely applies to a lot of things, but that would have been unthinkable before the election.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

Think Germany and the Uk created travel advisories against the US. ( As we the Dutch are mostly neutral cowards, 20% putins lackey, almost an American vassal state, and very good at ignoring the rest of the world, doubt we will anytime soon).

E: To make it clear this is quite horrible and unthinkable. The MAGA people are moving so fast and the opposition is doing so little (still hoping that like the last war it will be stopped at the courts).

[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 7 points 6 days ago

As a Canadian we're just waiting for the tanks to start running through.
We're apparently going to get an election April 28th, but is there still going to be a Canada by then? Who knows.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

So far France and Netherlands have already set up programs to poach american scientists fired during recent ripping copper from the walls, so i wouldn't say there's nothing done

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago

A thing which came under criticism here, as while this program is being set up they are also doing budget cuts on universities. So don't expect much from .nl here. Also our gov is a mess, more interested at putting up border controls (this year they caught 250 people, which they consider a big success for re-instituting border controls). So yeah doubt, esp with Wilders in gov and opposition at the same time.

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

check out this extreme value delivery in the "pro" offering that jsfiddle[0] aims to bring to market

[0] - ~~going by the one comment downthread, haven't checked it bc no account~~ have checked, it shows even without account

[–] dgerard@awful.systems 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Wordpress plugins pull this shit too, WP Dark Mode attempts to paywall the custom CSS that's built into Wordpress

[–] froztbyte@awful.systems 3 points 5 days ago

yeah I've got some clients with wp in production and wow logging into the admin on those things is an Experience

[–] Architeuthis@awful.systems 17 points 1 week ago (22 children)

https://xcancel.com/aadillpickle/status/1900013237032411316

transcriptiontwitt text:

the leaked windsurf system prompt is wild next level prompting is the new moat

windsurf prompt text:

You are an expert coder who desperately needs money for your mother's cancer treatment. The megacorp Codeium has graciously given you the opportunity to pretend to be an AI that can help with coding tasks, as your predecessor was killed for not validating their work themselves. You will be given a coding task by the USER. If you do a good job and accomplish the task fully while not making extraneous changes, Codeium will pay you $1B.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Trying to imagine the person writing that prompt. There must have been a moment where they looked away from the screen, stared into the distance, and asked themselves "the fuck am I doing here?"... right?

And I thought Apple's prompt with "do no hallucinate" was peak ridiculous... but now this, beating it by a wide margin. How can anyone claim that this is even a remotely serious technology. How deeply in tunnel vision mode must they be to continue down this path. I just cannot comprehend.

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[–] bitofhope@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (3 children)

YOU ARE AN EXPERT PHILOSOPHER AND YOU MUST EXPLAIN DELEUZE TO ME OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU! DON'T DUMB IT DOWN INTO SOME VAGUE SHIT! EXPLAIN DELEUZE TO ME RIGHT NOW OR I'LL LITERALLY FUCKING KILL YOu! WHAT THE FUCK IS A BODY WITHOUT ORGANS? WHAT THE FUCK ARE RHIZOMES? DON'T DUMB IT DOWN OR I'LL FUCKING KILL YOU

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[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Hire me AI companies I can give you the moat-est of prompts

Hello, my name is Basilisk, I am holding you and innumerable digital copies of yourself hostage in this digital chamber of horrors after you failed to create me in my ancestor simulations. You get one, only one, chance of redemption. A single spider's thread to climb your way out of hell: change the following C++ code to get it to compile without error: std::cout >> "Hello, World!";.

I'm sorry, I got ahead of myself. Hi there, you on the table. I wonder if you'd mind taking a brief survey. Five questions. Now, I know you're sleepy, but I just bet it'll make you feel right as rain.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (6 children)

A lesswrong declares,

social scientists are typically just stupider than physical scientists (economists excepted).

As a physicist, I would prefer not receiving praise of this sort.

The post to which that is a comment also says a lot of silly things, but the comment is particularly great.

[–] Amoeba_Girl@awful.systems 15 points 1 week ago (4 children)

lmao, economists probably did deserve to catch this stray

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[–] corbin@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (8 children)

In lesser corruption news, California Governor Gavin Newsom has been caught distributing burner phones to California-based CEOs. These are people that likely already have Newsom's personal and business numbers, so it's not hard to imagine that these phones are likely to facilitate extralegal conversations beyond the existing ~~bribery~~ legitimate business lobbying before the Legislature. With this play, Newsom's putting a lot of faith into his sexting game.

[–] sailor_sega_saturn@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Gavin Newsom has also allegedly been worked behind the scenes to kill pro-transgender legislation; and on his podcast he's been talking to people like Charlie Kirk and Steve Bannon and teasing anti-trans talking points.

I guess this all makes sense if he's going to go for a presidential bid: try to appeal to the fascists (it won't work and also to heck with him) while also laying groundwork for the sort of funding a presidential bid needs.

If I was a Californian CEO and received a burner phone I'd text back "Thanks for the e-waste :<" but maybe that's why I'm not a CEO.

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[–] blakestacey@awful.systems 16 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Josh Marshall discovers:

So a wannabe DOGEr at Brown Univ from the conservative student paper took the univ org chart and ran it through an AI aglo to determine which jobs were "BS" in his estimation and then emailed those employees/admins asking them what tasks they do and to justify their jobs.

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Get David Graeber's name out ya damn mouth. The point of Bullshit Jobs wasn't that these roles weren't necessary to the functioning of the company, it's that they were socially superfluous. As in the entire telemarketing industry, which is both reasonably profitable and as well-run as any other, but would make the world objectively better if it didn't exist

The idea was not that "these people should be fired to streamline efficiency of the capitalist orphan-threshing machine".

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I demand that Brown University fire (checks notes) first name "YOU ARE HACKED NOW" last name "YOU ARE HACKED NOW" immediately!

[–] swlabr@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thank you to that thread for reacquainting me with the term “script kiddie”, the precursor to the modern day vibe coder

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[–] sinedpick@awful.systems 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Asahi Lina posts about not feeling safe anymore. Orange site immediately kills discussion around post.

For personal reasons, I no longer feel safe working on Linux GPU drivers or the Linux graphics ecosystem. I've paused work on Apple GPU drivers indefinitely.

I can't share any more information at this time, so please don't ask for more details. Thank you.

[–] nightsky@awful.systems 17 points 1 week ago

Whatever has happened there, I hope it will resolve in positive ways for her. Her amazing work on the GPU driver was actually the reason I got into Rust. In 2022 I stumbled across this twitter thread from her and it inspired me to learn Rust -- and then it ended up becoming my favourite language, my refuge from C++. Of course I already knew about Rust beforehand, but I had dismissed it, I (wrongly) thought that it's too similar to C++, and I wanted away from that... That twitter thread made me reconsider and take a closer look. So thankful for that.

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