You don't have a car, oven, or microwave that isn't internet connected?
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clocks on phones and other devices reset automatically.
Fun fact, once my country decided to end daylight savings abruptly, and apparently propagating this info to phones isn't exactly trivial?
So on the day they would start, some phones jumped 1 hour forward, some didn't, seemingly randomly. That was a fun one.
I've stopped trusting automatic time adjustments since then.
Most likely a software update should've arrived from your phone's OS vendor, to update the machanism that automatically changes the hour per a specific country/region. My guess is those phones that continued to switch to DST never got the update.
Yeah, I suppose the issue lies with the fact that something like this shouldn't be tied to OS updates, specially in Android land where most manufacturers stop offering them long before the devices become obsolete.
Indeed, but it is a bit hard to disable DST without some sort of "intervention" from the manufacturer. The code to change DST is already in the phone, at the time when you buy. And let's assume at a later time, a country decides to abandon DST. The code in your phone needs to be altered by the manufacturer to disable this. Which happens via updates
You don't have any clocks in your house or your car? Not even on your microwave?
I guess I don't have any self control. I'm horrible for scrolling on my phone all day. If I needed it to know what time it is, or had to keep it in the bedroom to use as an alarm clock, I'd be toast.
No house clocks and I don't drive
And you think old people are the outlier when you don't have an oven or a microwave? No thermostat with a timer?
For older people it was seen as friendly and polite to remind others to change their clocks for daylight savings time. Alot of them probably dont have phones. I grew up pre-internet and the world was a much better place.
That feeling is nostalgia for a time when Reagan condemned many to die for loving the wrong people, DND was satanism, peter thiel's and musk's parents were busy apartheiding black workers to death.
The feeling will pass.
This type of all or nothing rhetoric is bs. It's ok to be nostalgic for a time that was better in some ways while rejecting the ways that it wasn't. The fact is, the rise of the internet has made life a lot more complicated and brought new problems even as some have been solved.
Had to reset the clock on my stove, microwave, coffee maker, and cars.
It’s no where near obsolete as you seem to imply.
My stove did need setting, but my 84 yo father in law’s car did set itself.
Stove, microwave, and two battery-operated dial clocks here. I didn't go anywhere today, so I'll find out in the morning if the car needs it. I honestly don't remember. The Rice cooker just cycled back to correct. :-)
Here in germany i think there's a radio signal being transmitted on a dedicated frequency that does nothing but distribute the current time information to digital devices. It's really useful!
That's existed since at least the 60's, maybe even earlier.
And electric clocks used to get their timing from the frequency of the electrical system, and power companies would compensate for any daily variations by changing the frequency over night so any timing systems would be back in sync.
Commercial buildings often used these kinds of clocks.
Are you sure you're talking about the same thing as me? Sounds like devices use the 50/60 Hz grid frequency instead of an internal resonator/frequency generator to count forward the seconds. But it doesn't tell the device "what time is it now" when you first switch it on.
It's everywhere, but not all devices have the radio
Huh. That does sound pretty damn useful.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DCF77
Id never even heard of it in Canada.
Most of us don't bother with that. The only clock I manually change is the one on my car. The other appliances are always blinking 00:00 from whenever the last power outage was.
I will say that it's useful having an always visible clock in the kitchen when cooking. For me that's the microwave.
Technically it doesn't need to be accurate, though, because it's for time differences (boil for 10 minutes, etc)
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There was a period of time when some devices did the change automatically, while others needed you to manually do it. Given that you could be late for something important, it makes sense to check whether your devices are up to date. For example, my phone will change it on its own, but my fitness tracker needs to sync with my phone to do it, so it would be easy to forget and find myself running to a late appointment.
My “smart” microwave lets me sync time from my phone on demand, but can’t support ntp. Thanks, LG.
The best feature from my new microwave was the ability to turn off both the standby clock and the beeping. Revolutionary.
Sidenote: I hope someone manages to work out what protocol LG uses, so you can have your microwave continuously display time 13:37 or something else dumb lol
it will truly be a great day for humanity when our smart microwave can display accurate time derived from literally differences in things travelling the speed of light and atomic decay with redundant backups and systems designed to withstand nuclear war
a great day indeed
Older people don’t seem to realize clocks on phones and other devices reset automatically.
That's not it.
In times before there were things like cell phones and auto updating clocks, people would use the upcoming change as a conversational item to interact with each other socially about.
Kind of like how people sometimes talk about the upcoming weather.
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My cellphone changes automatically and so does the alarm clock that we never use. But the stove, microwave, decorative clock, and thermostat all need to be changed manually. And I still have a VCR and know how to set the time on it but it doesn't update automatically.
The real conversation is why the fucking fuck are we still doing the time change shit??? Push your local representative to get their head out of their ass and vote to stop day light savings bullshit. I thought it was passed already and waiting to be instilled but apparently I was wrong and the fucking bill is still stuck in congress.
I'm personally a fan of permanent DST. People around me always comment that they'd be going to work in the dark in the winter if we had permanent DST. Buddy, we live in Canada, we already do in the winter.
I can't lie, I really did enjoy daylight savings. Leaving work and still having lots of sunshine time was awesome, made me feel really alive.
Leaving work when it's already dark outside is kinda depressing.
Though obviously changing time itself is very impractical, would be much easier to just change our working hours right? Yet it seems like getting companies to let their workers leave even 30m earlier is akin to pulling teeth 😒
The real conversation is why the fucking fuck are we still doing the time change shit??? Push your local representative to get their head out of their ass and vote to stop day light savings bullshit. I thought it was passed already and waiting to be instilled but apparently I was wrong and the fucking bill is still stuck in congress.
Parents don't like their young children going to school in the dark, basically.
~~Also, farmers.~~ Edit: Apparently, not farmers.
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So why not shift the school starting time instead?
Homie I live in Farmersville, USA and there isn't a fuckbilly from here to Hicktown, USA that is guna bitch about the time it says on the clock vs what they have to do in the time they have with the sun up.
As far as schools, I stand by my point. Maybe it'll make the idiots dumb enough to invest in a crotch fruit or two totake a look at the learning efficiency of kids and teens after the 5 hr mark. It's dumb as fuck having kids go to school 35 hrs a week or whatever it may be.
Homie I live in Farmersville, USA and there isn’t a fuckbilly from here to Hicktown, USA that is guna bitch about the time it says on the clock vs what they have to do in the time they have with the sun up.
I'll take you at your word as being right, since you have "boots on the ground".
For what its worth, I've watched plenty of interviews on news shows about it over many years, and it allways gets said that farmers want DST. But apparently that's not true.
As far as schools, I stand by my point. Maybe it’ll make the idiots dumb enough to invest in a crotch fruit or two totake a look at the learning efficiency of kids and teens after the 5 hr mark. It’s dumb as fuck having kids go to school 35 hrs a week or whatever it may be.
What the hell does that have to do with parents not wanting their children waiting for the morning bus in the dark?
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I remember back when clocks were essentially sticks in the ground, you had to manually drag the sun across the sky by a few degrees to change the time. Those were the days, twice a year.
pepperidge farm remembers
All the clocks in my house became correct today. You think I'm changing them twice a year when I can just subtract one??
my only manually-set clock is correct again. well, it's off 12 hours and flashes but the numbers are right.
power went out for a few seconds a number of years ago at exactly 12noon (they switched over some equipment or something; a planned event). never bothered to 'set' the time since i don't use its alarm anymore anyway.
My car's clock needs manual resetting, so does my old radio alarm that turns on NPR in the morning. Coffeemaker, microwave, and oven all have clocks, and the wall clock of course. Most of these, I never use as a precise time reference, because they run slow or fast. They're more for timing food or laundry, or counting the seconds while I grind coffee.... Except one day I will glance and think I have a lot more time than I really do, so best to make sure they are at least close to correct.
Always remember: those run fast or slow because the company that made it was super cheap. Devices hooked to 120vac have a stable time reference.
I can't afford a more expensive minivan just to keep the clock from gaining time. It already cost way too much because it's wheelchair modified. Same for the appliance clocks, which are only there so the timer will function.
i do similarly, i remind people this is nonsense and we shouldn't be changing ours clocks automatically or otherwise twice a year
Haha I almost 100% agree. Alas I do have a stove and microwave clock that requires resetting but it’s kind of hilariously obvious that I need to update them each time. I come into the kitchen and think “oh yeah…” :D
I'm 42 years old, and I have a fairly new watch, a Casio WS-1300H. Made in like 2022 I think. It's not smart, if anything it's just as dumb as a watch from 30 years ago.
But it runs on a button cell battery, said to have a battery life of like 10 years, as long as you don't use the backlight too often.
Yes, I had to manually change the option for Daylight Savings Time, but they make it really easy to do, it's all in the manual.
https://www.casio.com/za/watches/casio/product.WS-1300H-8AV/
My doctor is younger than me, and she wouldn't shut up about needing to change the clocks.
My car has two clocks and one automatically changes (I assume CarPlay) and the other has a setting that turn dst on or off.
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