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[–] SkavarSharraddas@gehirneimer.de 79 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

From world police to mafia protection racket.

[–] acosmichippo@lemmy.world 23 points 3 hours ago

we did impeach him for extorting ukraine last time.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 hours ago

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[–] daddy32@lemmy.world 31 points 6 hours ago

Nevermind that the terminals were not free and were paid for mostly by European allies. Duo of fuckers will leverage them anyway.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 180 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (33 children)

Jesus fucking christ. If you do this, and exploit Ukraine while they are literally under the gun, the US will be dead to the rest of the western world.

I cannot express how hard you can go fuck yourselves.

The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans. Fuck you, you selfish, coward, pieces of shit.

[–] Nima@leminal.space 11 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

oh my apologies! I'll personally see to stopping it myself.

[–] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Come on doc, you've gotta help us, we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!

[–] Nima@leminal.space 3 points 27 minutes ago

what? you want more? i can turn the socialized healthcare lever on as well. there it is! right there.

its so simple!

any other changes you think you want? i can grab a magic wand, if that will make you feel better.

American here: hard agree. This is all insane, but it’s predictable, and they told us about it ahead of time, and people still fucking voted for it. We shat the bed, now we must lie in it.

I’m probably gonna try to leave the country and renounce my citizenship at some point, particularly if the next few months are as catastrophic as I think they’ll be.

[–] hornedfiend@sopuli.xyz 20 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I was planning a holiday in the US this or next year, but decided not to proceed with it. I’d rather go anywhere else now really. Currently for me Russia = India = China = North Korea = USA now. Plenty of european countries I’d rather throw my money at.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 hours ago

I feel this. I would love to see Russia, China and India...but there's not a chance that I would knowingly give my money to those regimes. Not even through participating in their economy for half a week.

[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 103 points 9 hours ago (7 children)

I think a global boycott on US-made goods + services is necessary. Trump can only do this because the US is such a powerhouse.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 10 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

That is already happening in Canada. Those imperialists threatening annexation was finally what brought us Canadians together on something lol

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Has there been any progress on dropping tarrifs between provinces?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

I think I heard something about easing trade barriers between Ontario and I think it was either Saskatchewan or Manitoba.

[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 28 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Would be nice to see global sanctions against the US. Not realistic, but I hope all countries are moving towards significantly reducing American reliance. It'll be a slow process, but needs to be done.

[–] Vipsu@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

Honestly sanctions agains companies like these that can be weaponized politically sounds very reasonable.

They are national security threat in the true meaning of the word.

[–] eran_morad@lemmy.world 10 points 6 hours ago

Just relax and let trump continue destroying the USA. He’s doing putin’s work and fucking us all, Europeans and Americans alike.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 49 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

The US is only such a powerhouse, because they generally have the support of their allies. That makes it the unparalleled biggest economic block in the world.
But without their allies, USA isn't that much stronger than China economically. And USA wouldn't be nearly the powerhouse they've gotten used to be.

So China just has to look on and do nothing, while USA is losing their world dominance quickly.

[–] a887dcd7a@lemmy.world 30 points 8 hours ago

Yea, buyFromEU is already getting traction. More intense on reddit and a little bit on https://feddit.org/c/buyFromEU

[–] asap@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

I moved all my cloud computing from DO and Vultr to European owned options. It's a small thing, but it's about the only thing that I had been purchasing from the USA.

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[–] Mister_Feeny@fedia.io 31 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

The literal rest of my life will be spent trying to fuck over America and Americans.

As an American, I'd just like to say we absolutely deserve this.

[–] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca -5 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

All Amerikans deserve this and worse because they sit at home and complain online while a literal textbook definition of a coup is happening to their country. The country that literally screeches at the top of its lungs about the second amendment and right to have a gun “in case of a tyrannical government”. Not a single shot fired. No protests, just complaints. Y’all gave up your country without a fight.

[–] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 14 minutes ago

We’re definitely protesting. It may not make international news, but every day there are angry crowds outside government buildings or in the streets of our cities. The last I went to was this past Monday in NY and there were at least a few thousand of us. Personally I think we need more serious measures but protesting is a start.

[–] marv99@feddit.org 18 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I understand your feelings, and I share them. Let's stay strong and united, refusing to let fear or hatred divide us. Remember, we have allies in America who stand against extremism and are working tirelessly to promote justice and equality. There is a growing movement of brave activists, judges, and everyday Americans who are standing up against these challenges. It's crucial that we support them and let them know they are not alone. Together we are stronger.

You can find an overview of the current resistance in yesterday's post on Substack: https://robertreich.substack.com/p/ten-reasons-for-optimism

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 12 points 4 hours ago

As someone who didn’t vote for the Cheeto Nazi, thank you for the nuance.

That said, comment OP and anyone reading this - please boycott and sanction the US! Starving the billionaire leeches and smacking government into pretending they have an iota of decorum or sense is necessary, and any outside influence on that is helpful.

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[–] gnutrino@programming.dev 23 points 7 hours ago

Time for the UK government to make good on all that money we spent rescuing OneWeb...

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

the weird cube man has been dicking around the Ukrainians over his satellite service since before he got involved in the election he just won. if you look into the history of spacex, a meeting with russia looms large in its early history. i personally think he's been a kremlin asset since 2004, at least.

[–] thanksforallthefish@literature.cafe 16 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

He may have been a russian asset since 2004 (I don't know either way) but it certainly was nothing to do with that SpaceX meeting. He went there to try and buy Russian rocket engines, they told him to pound sand. He was forced to do it the hard way and hire a team and they designed what are now the Falcon 9 engines.

I don't understand why people keep making stuff up (not just this post, it's one of many), he's evil enough on the actual facts

[–] Fermion@feddit.nl 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I see it as an extension of the myth of American purity and external corruption. "This person is evil, some outside power must have compromising info on them." "Immigrants are violent criminals preying on innocent americans."

These attitudes ignore the reality that bad people can come from anywhere. There are plenty of villians with very mundane origin stories. What matters is if everyone else has the will and ability to keep bad people in check and hold them accountable.

The grifters in charge need no other motivation than a sense of superiority and an opportunity to make a buck.

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 hours ago

What matters is if everyone else has the will and ability to keep bad people in check and hold them accountable.

Well said.

The grifters in charge need no other motivation than a sense of superiority and an opportunity to make a buck.

That's why corruption is an issue in every political system that we've tried, that contains more than a few thousand people.
Always seems like the people who want to be in power, shouldn't be...and those that should want nothing to do with it...

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 9 hours ago

Please, everyone else quickly develop options other than the US. We’re going to need a minute to sort this mess out. :(((((((

[–] don@lemm.ee 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

I’ve had the great fortune to visit and live among other peoples in their countries (primarily the Baltics, Russia proper and Belorus) many years ago (first when Eesti still used the ruble, and then later again when she used those beautiful Eesti Kroon), when the people of those countries had much to tell me about their lives and cultures. I then had to return to the states, where knowing these things was frowned upon heavily, because they weren’t US-centric stories.

I’ve lived outside US borders just perhaps long enough to be able to disdain US exceptionalism, and understand that its head hasn’t been cowed enough yet for its population to understand humility relative to the much older and wiser world.

It’s very sad that I have to live to see it, especially with Canada and Mexico as our neighbors, but it seemed inevitable decades ago, so I’ll watch grimly as the country I was born in is made to fucking reckon… if it ever even learns to understand that fact.

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