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I thought I had finally found a healthy drink I liked with no artificial sweetness and they had to go and fuck it up

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[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 128 points 1 week ago (46 children)

On the plus side, stevia isn't artificial.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 1 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

some people dont like the taste of stevia, i used at least the ones that have actual stevia, and not just filled with dextrose, which is basically sugar, or ethyrithiol. its pricier and less sweet. ALot of stevia products will have sugar in it. i buy the sweet leaf, i heard you can get pure stevia leaves, but its expensive.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 23 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What is "artificial?"

It is all marketing BS

[–] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 38 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Generally, artificial sweeteners are chemically synthesized while natural sweeteners are grown and refined.

I used to grow the stevia plant in my garden.

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[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 94 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stevia isn't artificial lol

[–] Today@lemmy.world 43 points 1 week ago (13 children)

But it tastes artificial and fucks with lots of tummies.

[–] daggermoon@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

I think anything you're not used to has the potential to fuck with your tummy

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[–] voracitude@lemmy.world 75 points 1 week ago (23 children)
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[–] socsa@piefed.social 46 points 1 week ago (5 children)

The unsweetened tea fight is a losing battle. The only way to get it is to make it yourself.

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[–] Epicmulch@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I thought stevia wasn't an artificial sweetener. It's just a leaf.

[–] Zanz@lemmy.ml 27 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Stevie leaf extract is a petroleum base sweetener. It was used as an artificial sweetener , but then they found that it could be naturally occurring in small quantities and rebranded. It works like natural flavors where it can still come from petroleum so long as its naturally occurring with some source. I find it extremely bitter and soapy, just like almost every other artificial sweetener.

[–] syreus@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Could you give a source? I can't find ANY mention of stevia being "petroleum based".

Afaik Stevia is entirely produced from the shrub.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

sounds more like aspartame, aspartame is entirely artificial, stevia comes form the stevia plant.

[–] Welt@lazysoci.al 24 points 1 week ago (5 children)

That's the trouble with words like 'artificial' and 'natural'. They mean nothing. It would be better to call them refined additives, because I expect the "stevia" would be in a refined, extracted form when added - whether substantially changed from the form present in the plant or not, this could be considered artificial, if we insist on using this word.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 2 points 6 days ago

the oop said it came from petro, which isnt true. the substance which used to extract stevia isnt organic though, probably using an organic solvent, but they purify it to some extent. but alot of stevia brands only used the pure stevia from the plant.

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 32 points 1 week ago (6 children)

i have no issue with stevia other than it tastes fucking awful. just a terrible aftertaste that makes me never want to consume it ever, in any configuration.

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[–] 3dmvr@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

I hate this brand, we now pay 6$ for water from a stupid can instead of having water bottles at festivals for 1-2$, the dude who owns it is friends with insomniacs owner, ruined the water supply at every festival. Redbull is typically cheaper than water now at 4$.

No ppl dont think you're drinking alcohol like they claim its for, that has never been a valid reaon to grab it, we all know its water, someone asking you for some water should be the first clue ppl dont think its alcohol.

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[–] seven_phone@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Stevia can only be added in the manufacturing process by a cyclone valve which is actually quite noisy.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How about drinking water from the tap? Much cheaper, not wasting cans, and healthy. If you live in a community with bad tap water, write a letter to your local water board, and buy a filtration tank you can put in your fridge.

If you must really have flavor, buy some of the powdered dehydrated lime or orange powder packets.

[–] Lightor@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Ahhh this line of logic. Yes, people can forego luxury items and save money while being healthier. You could never eat red meat, or drink soda, or have ice cream, sure, that would be much healthier and cheaper.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (5 children)

I presume you're not from the US.

Many municipalities across the US have poor quality or non drinkable water, and many more do not offer public access to water fountains. Thus, bottled water is a huge market in the US as free facilities are not always available.

I'm Canadian and I legitimately cannot recall the last time I bought bottled or canned water. I bring my two 18.9L jugs to the store to fill them with filtered water for $5 and that's the extent of my "bottled water" consumption. Elsewhere, I carry a metal water bottle I can get refilled anywhere for free.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Have drank tap water across the US for decades. Some municipalities are crappier than others, but a fridge filter tank takes care of those places.

[–] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely, I'm not stating that the US' water is undrinkable, simply that enough municipalities have poor quality or non-drinkable water that it's easier for companies to market water bottles to people.

Stories like Flint, Mi. go international, and its crisis lasted for a really long time, despite being mostly the exception (see the other commenter's Wikipedia link). And public access water fountains are not a thing in many cities, leading to an even greater perceived scarcity by consumers.

My point above was that enough municipalities have a drinking water quality problem to drive sales of water bottles across the country, the US' drinking water is not bad across the world stage, but probably worse than most western European countries.

The solution should be either a water filter, or a filtered water dispenser from a refillable jug. Not disposable water bottles.

[–] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I’ve quite literally drank Flint water. Not for a humble brag (far from it) but I really hate that they became some kind of trope. They have needed help for decades and could have recovered faster if America ever cared about people. Good people there. Shitty America management. It’s like they keep them down for the Internet points.

As for municipal water. Stop by Altoona, Iowa sometime and drink their water. It’s just so terrible. Ground water full of stuff they can’t filter at scale. I don’t hate them for it, it’s what they can suck out of the ground, for maybe a few more years before it becomes brine.

It is hard to produce drinking water that is safe, and also tastes good. Is my global point.

Personal filters can improve that. Otherwise, buying water just leads us to a human future that is by far the worst reality we could ever impose upon ourselves.

Edit: TL;DR: bad tasting municipal water isn’t a conspiracy. It’s just the reality you have to work with at the time.

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[–] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (3 children)

How were you convinced sweet tea was a healthy drink to begin with? https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-is-stevia Stevia to reduce the amount of agave nectar used is making it healthier if anything. Can you actually taste it if it's used sparingly in addition to real sugar?

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Stevia leaves a disgusting after taste and is an immediate deal breaker for me in any drink.

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