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Shirts That Go Hard

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[–] abbadon420@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago

I like it, but please don't wear this in public. You're gonna scare some kids and make some parents angry and that'll just feed the nazis. But it's great for Saturday night's or as a work outfit.

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 days ago
[–] nick@midwest.social 2 points 6 days ago

Boy, there are a whole lotta shitty takes in this thread. Glad to start a conversation.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

FC St. Pauli has better anti-Fascists shirts and I do not want to stoop to the level of a shit neo-Nazi MAGAt.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 days ago

What are you talking about "stooping to their level"? We literally shot Nazis on-sight because they were such a threat.

Just because violence isn't graceful, doesn't mean it's not necessary to end a threat to humanity. Sometimes it's the moral thing to do. Some people are simply too dangerous to allow their existence.

[–] Dorkyd68@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As badly as I want this shirt, I could never wear it. Live in rural Oklahoma and it would cause nothing but fights. Sigh, oh to live anywhere but here

[–] nick@midwest.social 61 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I live in Ohio and wear it regularly, though I’m getting more nervous about it as the days go on.

But fuck it.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago (3 children)

It’d be 100x more effective if you were packing.

[–] nick@midwest.social 25 points 1 week ago

What makes you think I’m not! It IS Ohio after all.

(…I’m not 😕)

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[–] ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Good on you, keep at it as long as you are able, those who are in danger and stuck in the most dangerous places need to see someone sticking up for them the most. ✊

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[–] henfredemars@infosec.pub 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Self defense. Violent views that would not tolerate your very existence don’t qualify for tolerance.

[–] rebelsimile@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 week ago

Tolerance requires a mutual respect for each others’ coexistence. It’s kind of right on the label. You don’t have a meeting of the minds with someone whose premise begins and ends with denying that.

[–] codexarcanum@lemmy.dbzer0.com 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I bought the "Doom x John Brown" shirt from their site last year and, as a lifelong Doom fan and anti-confederate, really savor wearing it when I go out.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

Fuck yes. I just got a sticker from Punk With A Camera that says:

"I don't argue with people who John Brown would have shot"

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[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 30 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Imagine wearing this to public gatherings. It would probably ruin some relationships but the chaos it would cause would be so sweet.

[–] Tezzerets_Tea_Time@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Nazi sympathizers aren't really people I want to have in my life.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

That's not the only people who'd distaste that.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But there are people who would dislike this because of the violence it depicts.

They're allowed to. I don't need that kinda weakness in my circle, tho.

[–] oascany@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

I could stand to lose the relationships this would ruin

[–] bluesheep@lemm.ee 28 points 1 week ago (4 children)
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[–] girlthing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

First of all - yes, violence is the Nazi language, and probably the simplest way to get through to them. Pain and hurt is what they signed up for, and I wouldn't mind giving it to them.

But also consider:
https://crimethinc.com/2019/04/08/against-the-logic-of-the-guillotine-why-the-paris-commune-burned-the-guillotine-and-we-should-too

[–] WhosMansIsThis@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Thanks for this.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Also consider NKVD and how in Stalin's USSR the enormous (real) trust Soviet state and revolutionary ideology had were spent on violence that weakened and poisoned the skeleton of that project before WWII fractured it. And then basically till USSR's end it was mimicking its own alternative self that didn't transpire because of repressions and war.

If you have a mechanism that doesn't work right, repeatedly hitting it with a heavy object is the least likely approach to succeed.

Approval of violence is that.

Also see Lao-Tzu, "one who excels in fighting is never roused in anger".

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[–] febra@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Around 26 nazis didn't appreciate this post.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Fascism by Eco includes lack of principle, that is, it's an ideology without form, except for traits that result from lack of form, like violence and hierarchy, but also approval of competitiveness (in the form of backstabbing among others), collectivism and self-sacrifice.

What I mean is - maybe the picture will feel too fascist for your taste, if you meditate on it for some time without reading comments. It suggests a fascist (without any "maybe") approach.

[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Surprised this hasn't been removed for not being "safe enough."

(I fucking love it)

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