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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 23 points 10 hours ago

~~Google~~ America is on the Wrong side of History.

[–] AfricanGrey@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All the CEOs are dick riding Trump because they know the playbook. You've never seen kowtowing this hard before because you've never witnessed the rise of christofascism. They know what's coming/here, and that the god emperor is all that matters going forward.

You'll understand when the midterms are obviously rigged and voting canceled in 2028. Right now you're just thinking "maybe but not really" because you still have food in the fridge and dismiss this as hyperbolic. You're witnessing the rise of Nazi Germany in real time and doing nothing about it.

[–] Fungah@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

You're not from America are you?

I ask this because you seem to actually grasp what's happening.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Been that way since before the “Don’t be evil” slogan was removed in 2018.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's just when they let the mask slip. It's not like they were saints up til that point.

Hence “before they removed” the slogan.

[–] dan@upvote.au 1 points 11 hours ago

I don't think they actually removed that slogan though? They moved it from the start of the Code of Conduct to the end, but it's still there: https://abc.xyz/investor/google-code-of-conduct/

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 day ago

And has been so for over a decade at least, probably two

[–] El_guapazo@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It's a capitalist corporation that sold its soul to the highest bidder. Of course it's evil. It's based on greed and exploitation.

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Billionaire bad?? How could this be!!? I was told whenever two parties entered into a voluntary agreement it meant both of them mutually improved their situation and that if you got billions out of it, it meant by definition that you did a lot of good!

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 6 points 1 day ago

Here's a gun to your head, now, it would be beneficial to you to hand over your wallet m'kay?

No bullet in your brain, more cash in my hand, both parties benefit! See how that works?

Oh, you have a lump growing in your thyroid, mmmm.... that is bad. We can cut that out for you and most people we do that to live a lot longer, but first we need you to mortgage your home and give us the proceeds. See how that works?

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 155 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Literally every publicly owned corporation that is at the mercy of shareholders is on the wrong side of history.

As this shit gets normalized, watch all of them fall in line.

Apple is already back advertising on X.

Corporations only care about money, and they will change their values to match what makes money.

They never accepted women, blacks, latinos, LGBTQ+, and the disabled into their ranks because they thought those people were humans who had intrinsic value just for existing.

No, they accepted them because they knew they were leaving money on the table. They could market shaving to women to increase razor blade sales, because now women employees would have money to spend. They could market hair care products to the black community because now their black employees would have money to spend.

It was always about expanding markets and finding more people to sell shit to. Once that stops being profitable in the USA, treating those people like humans will stop. Watch it happen with the disabled and LGBTQ+ first.

It was never just Rainbow Capitalism, because this shit literally goes all the way back to Women's Suffrage and the Civil Rights eras. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

[–] holdstrong@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Corporations just reflect the values of their owners. There are companies that emphasize things other than revenue, but as soon as a company goes public and becomes controlled by Wall Street, profit becomes their sole motivation

[–] Vinstaal0@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Yup, but most people have savings or some kind of pension, both are often put into the stock market by the bank or pension fund to give us the interest we want.

We need to try and exercise more of our power as stakeholder in these companies, in the end we still have the power to not use products from these massive corporations. Stop order from shit like Amazon, but go and order from smaller stores, switch search engine and browser, etc.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This is why the stock market was, fundamentally, a trojan horse. It was created so capitalism could intertwine the peoples wealth and retirement funds to the success of the wealth of the oligarchy, making the entire market too big to fail.

Now the entire system is designed to prevent damage to companies, no matter how moral, unethical, or criminal. The success of corporations IS treated as equal to "national security".

In the end, the stock market is a natural logical progression from the starts of capitalism, and the situation we are in today is again closer to capitalism logical conclusion

From capitalism's basic principles, profit above literally everything was always bound to happen. Just how evolution happens through natural selection. It's a similar process. Because ultimately capitalism is an economic system built on competition, not cooperation.

[–] criitz@reddthat.com 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Capitalism is amoral

EDIT: to be clear that's A-moral not IM-moral

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No ethical consumption under capitalism, yep.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world -3 points 1 day ago

Leave such takes for .ml, please.

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Unfortunately alternatives aren't any better...

Your right.

Change is difficult so we should just give up.

They very much are, there's just little to no political will to implement them

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Man too bad all I've got to eat is this cyanide. Those cookies over there? Don't you know how unhealthy those are?

[–] ZiemekZ@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Socialism is cyanide and capitalism is cookies. The former will kill you instantly, the second one long-term (diabetes etc.) – what we're looking for is fruit and vegetables, but for now I'm more than glad to eat some cookies.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They could market shaving to women to increase razor blade sales, because now women employees would have money to spend.

That makes zero sense. Paying people so they can spend a tiny fraction of it back to your company? Why not just keep the money in the first place?

No, they hire them because they've run the math and realized it costs less to hire them than that it costs them in sales due to public perception.

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago

You might need to pause and think a bit more. Corporations are competing for money. There isn’t just one big pile of money somewhere.

[–] WatDabney@fedia.io 54 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Inevitably, all hierarchical organizations end up on the wrong side of history.

In hierarchies, people compete for position.

People with principles, morals, integrity and/or empathy will have choices that they simply will not make.

People without those things are not constrained. They can and will make whatever choices might benefit them, with no regard for the consequences to others.

So all other things being more or less equal, psychopaths actually have a competitive advantage in hierarchies, and hierarchies end up effectively rewarding and thus selecting for psychopathy.

[–] MangoCats@feddit.it 8 points 1 day ago

There are some offsetting factors that also prevent the "best and brightest" from rising to power: https://dealbreaker.com/2007/10/icahn-explains-why-are-there-so-many-idiots-running-shit

He moves up the corporate ladder, without a single original idea that might make his boss feel threatened by his potential.

Eventually, he gets to be the #2 guy at the company. He's a little dumber than the C.E.O., but the board likes him, so he eventually gets to be C.E.O.

Of course, he assigns a #2 who is a little dumber than he is. "And eventually, we're going to have all morons running our companies," Icahn concluded. "We might not be that far off from that right now."

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And if there is one uniting principle in conservatism, the singular reason why religious dirt-poor common-clay-of-the-West support billionaires, is that they all deeply believe in hierarchies.

Why do they go after trans-women but not trans-men? Because men are naturally higher in the hierarchy than women, thus wanting to exist in male spaces (but not actually crossing into them) is seen as the proper order, whereas wanting to exist in female spaces (read: lowering yourself in the hierarchy) is seen as unnatural.

Why do they fellate the rich? Because the wealthy are better people, which is tautologically why they're rich.

Why are they racist? Because white people are better than not-white people, natch.

Why do they hate atheists? Because the very concept of religion implicitly enforces hierarchy. Sectarian disputes are just an offshoot of this.

[–] billwashere@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

This seems relevant here…

[–] DrSleepless@lemmy.world 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We knew this as soon as they got rid of the “Don’t be evil” slogan

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 day ago

☞ We knew this as soon as they got the “Don’t be evil” slogan

if you need to remind yourself not to be evil, that's already a bad start.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 29 points 1 day ago

Mega corps are enemy of the people but the people are too stupid to recognize it...

Culture of bootlicking among adults in the US is endemic and nothing will change until freedom enjoyers hit critical mass.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] OhVenus_Baby@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

Fuck what they stand for and implemented. The technologies developed are useful but the maliciousness of it ruins everything. So fuck that part of them.

[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

🌍 👩‍🚀 🔫 👩‍🚀

[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

But they're always right, just look at Google glass, Google plus, and Stadia... Or google buzz, google health, and igoogle.

Yep, Google never gets it wrong.

[–] venusaur@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Ever heard of JP Morgan or GE? Doesn’t matter.

[–] MataVatnik@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

When have they not?

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca -4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's why I just upgraded my subscription to Proton. (YES I KNOW ABOUT ALL THE DRAMA WITH THEIR CEO!!! AT LEAST THEY'RE NOT SELLING AI SERVICES TO MILITARY CONTRACTORS, DOING MASS SURVEILLANCE OR SELLING MY FUCKING DATA!)

I switched to Tuta for email and calendar and other services for other products. I try to avoid putting too many eggs in a given basket.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

GO BACK TO SENDING PIECES OF PAPER IN THE MAILBOX YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT /s

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I ALREADY DO GOD DAMMIT! (Seriously I have pen pals. I write letters every year. I'm actually late and need to write them!)