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Summary

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez warned that the Trump is deliberately overwhelming the public with chaotic news to induce passivity.

Citing Steve Bannon’s "flood the zone" strategy and historian Michiko Kakutani’s comparison of Trump to Mussolini and Hitler, she argued that Trump uses the internet to spread disinformation, much like past dictators used film and radio.

Urging people to stay engaged, she emphasized that collective resistance can slow harmful policies and that small acts of opposition make a difference.

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[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Donald Trump divides, Luigi Mangione unites, even in such tense times. Not because of violence, because of class war stuff.

Donald Trump, somehow, is the ultimate distraction from the class war. Every time he does something awful, he's reminding you about the class war he's trying to distract you from.

[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

When Bernie Sanders brought forward another fervent request for free healthcare for all Americans, and the only retort the R he was addressing could come up with was a completely fabricated lie about Bernie taking money from pharmaceutical companies, I stopped believing anyone sensible could oppose it.

"Ew, Obamacare? I'd rather have the Affordable Care Act!!"

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 136 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (7 children)

You know why I'm burnt out? Because I don't see hardly any Democrats pushing the fuck back.

I see a bunch of Democrat voting for Republican bills knowing they're fucking horrible. I see and hear a bunch of Democrats voting for his unqualified nominees and then taking about bipartisanship. I see Fetterman slobbing all over Trump's toadstool supporting ethnic cleansing all fucking day long with not a single move to kick his stroked ass out. I don't see Democrats doing fuck all.

I can handle bad news, I can't stand the spinless, enabling Democrats.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 42 points 4 days ago (4 children)

And the media! When Musk did a Nazi salute they all fell all over each other to run cover for him and "both sides" the issue. When his obvious government wrecking DOGE agency torches important programs it's just presented as a "tough efficiency program". The whole mainstream media is trying to pretend everything is normal.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

both sides

Make more sides with state level electoral reform.

Videos on Electoral Reform

First Past The Post voting (What most states use now)

Videos on alternative electoral systems we can try out.

STAR voting

Alternative vote

Ranked Choice voting

Range Voting

Single Transferable Vote

Mixed Member Proportional representation

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

We tried to pass ranked choice voting last election it was almost unanimously rejected. The only state that voted yes was Alaska and they already have it.

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[–] Katana314@lemmy.world 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

AOC talked about exactly this in her video (it's over an hour long, but when you have time, I'd say it's worth a watch). There was a specific effort to start this madness after Congress adjourned for the week, and there's been a scramble to get back for continued pushback.

And, even for democrats we presume to fight for these issues, there is complacency where people only whine on social media without making themselves known directly to their representatives. That's important both for people in Democrat, and Republican districts, to make it known their constituents are not blind to these problems.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Yeah, contacting your rep is always a great idea but come on, do you really think that it needs to take massive amounts of contact in order for Democrats to realize "don't vote for any Republican neo Nazi cabinet an member" is the right move?

Come on man, do you really think we have to tell them this? This is something that's just so blatantly obvious, such a low bar, one has to wonder how crappy are Democrats and their leadership.

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[–] Lumiluz@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago (5 children)

I burnt out long ago when I saw Democrats being full rightwing and most Americans being "enlightened centrists" doing shit. For me the tipping point was the Supreme Court stealing the election from Al Gore.

But I think what was most frustrating of all was the years of being called am extremist by most when pointing out the Democrats weren't stopping fascism and later that Trump would be the end of democracy during his first term. I remember so many fucking people saying that taking out Trump by any means possible was "extreme", only to see some of those same people now wish for the exact same damn thing when it's much more difficult to do so.

I'm glad I left that country years ago. Ultimately the reason there's a lack of unions, justice, and more there is because it's a country full of broken people, ruled by broken people.

Many immigrants thought it was great simply because they weren't being actively hunted to be killed or no longer dealt with unaffordable food (like my parents). They came from even worse countries at the time and when the USA wasn't that bad, so they keep quiet and just try to live on, and just accept injustice because it's all they've ever known. And the natively born there either are deluged with propaganda so they never pull the wool out of their eyes and never taught to think critically or are systematically broken down into poverty, injustice, and violence so they lose hope.

I don't think Americans will do what's right, even when only one path is now left open. But maybe I'm wrong, and like the old quote they'll do the right thing at the last moment when they realize they have no more choices.

Either way, it doesn't directly affect me anymore. I tried fighting back, but a small group can't fix a broken people. Maybe completely shattering them is what's needed instead.

In the meantime, I'll keep helping those seeking help where I can, especially the 🟦🌸⬜🌸🟦 seeking to leave to safety.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

Honestly, you can't go by news reporting alone if you want to actually see what democrats are doing, you need to actually look at they do to be transparent from their own sources, the news is avoiding covering anything negative about Trump to an absurd degree.

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 169 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Great, now I'm burnt out and feeling guilty about it.

[–] Broadfern@lemmy.world 130 points 4 days ago (3 children)

“Do what you can. And what you can do is enough,” she said. …Ocasio-Cortez reminded her followers several times that no deed of resistance is too small.

Honestly, continuing to exist/taking a moment to be nice to yourself in an administration that hates you counts. Keep existing.

A lot of these click-baity titles and over-simplified summaries seem to be adding to this very problem of guilting people for being overwhelmed.

Unfortunately that’s the system but please don’t feel guilty for being human. Kindness and compassion is resistance, and starting with yourself is a valid step.

Fuck the forces who are selling a solution to a problem they created but are trying to say is your fault. /endrant

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

In a world of cruelty, kindness is an act of rebellion.

[–] ronalicious@lemmy.world 20 points 4 days ago
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[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 44 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The first thing she said is to take a breather. If you're unfocused, tired and afraid you can't do anything.

The second thing is to learn, educate yourself, figure out that Trump, Musk and billionaires are not stirring up chaos and havoc just because they feel like it. If these were 100 unconnected random actions, tackling them feels impossible. Once you understand that it's all around the theme of Musk, Trump, media-owning billionaires want maximum money and minimum accountability, their actions simply fit within that and a strategy to tackle it is easier.

Third is to "lock in", focus your energy on what you can do, big or small. Even if you are too afraid to talk to another soul, knowing your rights is still action. Knowledge is power. Talking to your friends and family is action. Calling and writing to your legislators is action. Joining a protest/rally/meeting is action. Organizing, volunteering leading is action. The point is do it to what level you are capable at the moment. There are far more non-billionaires than billionaires. Every bit of action counts.

Last, make them abuse their power, do not just allow them to or assume they will. They are going to do horrifying things, you don't have to submit to it in advance. You can slow it down.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

The thing the idiot billionaires didn't realize is that they already had maximum money and minimum accountability.

Money. Which would you rather have, a million dollars or a million rubles? By grinding the US economy to a standstill, they may have more dollars, but they'll be worth less.

When they complete turning us into a fascist oligarchy, they'll have more accountability, not less. Nearly every single one of them will have to spend more time worrying about getting thrown out of a window by a "superior" or shot in front of a hotel on their way to a conference.

They'll have to fear everyone above and below them. They discarded a set of rules that originated from general agreements to help us all get along, and have chosen power and blood as the deciding factor over laws. Well, that goes both ways. Democracy requires some good faith, and we've taken that for granted.

The founders understood this. It's why they invented our system of democracy. It wasn't just out of the goodness of their hearts. That all happened around 1776, as you know.

Between June 14 and July 27, 1794, hundreds of nobles, shopkeepers, clergy, corset makers, vintners, and other “suspicious” citizens were executed by guillotine at Place de la Nation in Paris.

That sentiment didn't arise out of the blue. It was around for decades before it got to that point. The founding fathers were very aware of what was happening there. The English civil war happened in the mid 1600s and the king was executed.

It turns out constant power struggles were often not great for those in power.

But we've forgotten that. So now, instead of learning from history, we'll repeat it.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

So glad i'm not a rich person who's betting their families lives on the success of the markets. Lots of finance bros living in populated cities gonna find out the hard way that food doesn't grow from money.

[–] Serinus@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Another thing the idiots tearing down USAid don't seem to realize. It's not just charity; it's our insurance. We intentionally overproduce food. Because, as you say, food doesn't grow from dollar bills.

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The key is to tune out and organize your resistance with your peers. Find energy in love for others

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 26 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

most people are in denial and carrying on like business as usual, making plans for 5 year projects as if the last remaining shreds of whatever used to pass for "checks and balances" were not being obliterated as we speak

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

I'm super glad that lemmy is here to help with this as much as possible

[–] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

So my trick is to only care when people actually do something instead of dead catting.

Threatens Canada? That’s not a thing, let me know when they put a bill.

Praises Bibi? We all know how they feel, not news, let me know when more funding has been approved.

Threatens tariffs? Okay let me know when they start taking effect, cause last time it was a bluff.

Kind of same thing here, AOC (whom I’m a big fan of) isn’t proposing a bill or asking for people to show up on a certain date to protest, not really news.

It works cause news organizations’ whole purpose is to report news, actual events, but they haven’t been doing their job cause they are chasing clicks.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

I've filtered out Elon and Trump from my news feed and it's a lot less stressful. I'm no longer jumping at every bloviation

[–] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

Burnout isn’t a bug—it’s the feature. The 24/7 propaganda machinery wants you oscillating between outrage fatigue and performative panic. Bannon’s “flood the zone” isn’t some novel psyop—it’s Mussolini’s playbook photocopied by every regime that figured out chaos is the exhaust fume of control.

But let’s not pretend this is a red-hat exclusive. Blue checkmarks and algorithmic doomscroll peddlers profit from the same emotional hijacking. Your attention isn’t just monetized—it’s militarized.

The antidote? Stop mistaking retweets for resistance. Real defiance is logging off to build parallel systems that render their circus obsolete. Feed your community, not the timeline. Sovereignty begins when you stop letting their clowns dictate your cortisol levels.

[–] Hossenfeffer@feddit.uk 63 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] boydster@sh.itjust.works 41 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Exactly. People need to stay focused. Trump and his henchmen are going to do everything they can to keep the masses fighting amongst each other while they rob us blind. This is what "class war, not culture war" means.

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[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 39 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I just saw someone on Lemmy say the other day something along the lines of "he's only been in there a month"

Hell, at that point it was barely 2 WEEKS.

[–] BeardedGingerWonder@feddit.uk 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wouldn't say I'm burnt out but sure as shit I'm struggling to keep up.

[–] stringere@sh.itjust.works 10 points 3 days ago

but sure as shit I’m struggling to keep up

You don't have to keep up with all of it. That's a sure road to being overwhelmed. Follow the topics most important to you from multiple sources in hopes of getting the largest view as possible.

Spend time on new sites not based in the US, it helps to know the rest of the world sees what is going on for what it is.

Make sure to keep at your hobbies and interests that aren't politically related so you get some downtime and recuperation.

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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 55 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm running off of spite at this point.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 21 points 4 days ago

It's the only thing that keeps me going.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'm glad to hear it coming from her.

Because it is burning me out fast. I need to take a break, especially right now because of so much on my plate. But then I can re engage.

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[–] Flumpkin@slrpnk.net 7 points 3 days ago

Yeah. But I've felt burned out by the news for a while already. So this is nothing!

[–] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Here is an interview with PBS Frontline where Bannon describes the strategy of overwhelming the media: (at 1:26:19) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm5xxlajTW0&t=5179s

[–] sumguyonline@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

There's a place past burnt out... Waaaay past becoming the homeless vagrant that shouts "answer your telephone!" at migrating birds... Past hearing rushing water in your ears that is actually your blood pressure as you have a full blown meltdown because despite over a decade of hard work in a field you still struggled to make rent, car payment, insurance, and food, let alone a social life... There's a place past the fight or flight of an extreme anxiety attack... It's peaceful, bland, and frankly just existing in it fills you with an unspeakable rage. I live there, I have 1 thing, and 1 thing only to lose. My dogs. Anyone dares lay a finger on them and all hell breaks loose. I refuse to stay here. I'm making a cells for all those I will drag here by their short pube hairs. Burnt out is just a stage, if you want to keep living, it gets worse from here.

[–] snugglesthefalse@sh.itjust.works 25 points 4 days ago (3 children)

As a non American I'm burnt out. Wish something decisive would happen (hopefully something good too)

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[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Yeah, we had a class of independent professionals that delivered verified news directly from sauce to the pleb, all on a fixed wage as not to have financial stimulation that would affect the quality or contents of said reporting.

[–] jerryh100@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

So did these shitheads forget how many legal shitstorms they were in during the past four years after they were voted out last time after all those shits? Yeah fuck around now and find out later.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 22 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I'm just holding out until we start taking to the streets at this point.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 16 points 4 days ago (2 children)

We need a new rage against the machine album, and wu tang.

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[–] moon@lemmy.ml 18 points 4 days ago

Trump's first term was like this for me. Every day was like watching a car crash and waiting, praying for someone to do something.

I told myself I wasn't going to do it this time, but we've gone from the slow-moving car crash of the first term to a full-on NASCAR accident happening every day. Not paying attention feels like they're winning, but there's only so much I can take

[–] frezik@midwest.social 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's OK to feel burnt out already. Take a break from the news and doomscrolling social media if you need to.

Then come back, and focus on one thing that can help make things better. Doesn't have to be the most pressing issue. I'm not even sure what the most pressing issue is right now. But pick something and focus on that.

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