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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 35 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The first books the Nazis burned were scientific research notes about trans people.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago

They then executed everyone with a brain. Drs, teachers, engineers, scientists, researchers, etc

[–] Tin@lemmy.blahaj.zone 52 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

“forbidden terms”

...must be that "free speech" I keep hearing about. This is obviously a first amendment issue, right?

Right?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 25 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (2 children)

to be fair you've been hearing about it from this troglodyte:

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[–] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 56 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Alfredolin@sopuli.xyz 34 points 22 hours ago

This is... This is bad! Wow.

[–] mostNONheinous@lemmy.world 135 points 1 day ago

Look at all this cancel culture….

[–] Stormdancer@lemmy.world 29 points 21 hours ago

What the actual fuck?! It's like living in a fever-driven nightmare. We can only hope there are backups of the un-purged documents.

[–] postmateDumbass@lemmy.world 67 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So much money wasted modifying all these documents.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

For them, it's worth the cost for greater good.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 7 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

For them, it’s worth the cost for greater ~~good~~ harm.

They don't care about the greater good. They care about causing as much harm as they can.

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[–] Shortstack@reddthat.com 14 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

The CDC has instructed its scientists to retract or pause the publication of any research manuscript being considered by any medical or scientific journal, not merely its own internal periodicals

The scope is thankfully limited only to CDC scientists.

Not that this makes it good news by any stretch.

This is going to push research money squarely under the thumb of corporate control, which is of course the aim here. Privatize everything.

I do know scientists hate having their work paywalled or censored so I’d expect sci-hub to get a lot more popular real quick, but many will definitely self censor their official publications to keep their jobs til orange hitler shoots himself in a bunker somewhere.

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[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 87 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] frank@sopuli.xyz 21 points 1 day ago (3 children)

What's the opposite of eating the onion? That happened to me just now too

[–] superkret@feddit.org 20 points 22 hours ago

Drinking the swamp

[–] BreadOven@lemmy.world 12 points 21 hours ago
[–] Razzazzika@lemm.ee 11 points 23 hours ago

Hopeful thinking

[–] Squorlple@lemmy.world 146 points 1 day ago
[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 142 points 1 day ago

Literally speedrunning the Nazi handbook.

[–] lembas@lemm.ee 261 points 1 day ago (19 children)

I'm so fucking scared. They've inhibited our movement by fucking with passports, they've defined us as dishonest and dishonorable in the EO kick us out of the military, they've codified the notion that our gender identity constitutes sexual deviance and poses a threat to children, they've attacked proven life-saving care, with a focus on children and an impact on adults.

and now they're trying to book-burn us out of existence.

this is systematic dehumanization, the track record of which is grim.

There's just straight up not enough of us to do this on our own.

If people don't start standing up for us, we're fucked.

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[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 213 points 1 day ago (6 children)

An attack on science is an attack on us all. They are trying to erase science they dont agree with. This is Christian fascism - welcome to giliad.

Anyone in the US please organise - join an anti religious influence group, protest, disobey. You must fight back.

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[–] MunkysUnkEnz0@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Don't they know just because you've banned a word, doesn't mean that the item or thing automatically poofs out of existence?

This is that easy. There's a few words I'd love to ban. How about Elmo? And Turd

[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 21 points 21 hours ago

It's just the first step. You don't acknowledge they exist on paper or in speech. That makes it much easier to turn against them physically. It's still up in the air whether or not they take the final steps of making their existence illegal. I think they will.

[–] dustyData@lemmy.world 29 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

This is a 21st century version of book burning.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 22 points 22 hours ago

This is Project 2025 in action.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 21 points 22 hours ago

Wiping trans people from existence is easier for them to do when nobody is allowed to talk about them.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 day ago

Unfortunately, this kind of control of language does work in the long term.

[–] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

It makes it harder to pursue science when you cannot use the terns others in ypur field use.

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[–] WhatYouNeed@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

How long until this evil administration forces some citizens to sew a yellow star or pink triangle on their clothes?

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

The GOP read the Bolshevik, CCP and Nazi playbooks.

[–] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 8 points 20 hours ago

Are you fucking kidding me?!?! What the fuck is wrong with that orange fucking clown? Jesus fuckjng christ.

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 155 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] towerful@programming.dev 101 points 1 day ago (5 children)
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[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 6 points 19 hours ago

I really hope some people are archiving stuff as fast as possible...

[–] Arghblarg@lemmy.ca 108 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Back up everything. Don't let it be memory-holed! Holy crap.

[–] PM_Your_Nudes_Please@lemmy.world 11 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

If you have the space for it, please consider helping re-host the Anna’s Archive backup.

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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 4 points 18 hours ago

times 3.12.23 reporting bb dayorder doubleplussungood refs unpersons rewrite fullwise upsub antefiling

In Oldspeak, this might be rendered:

CDC orders mass retraction and revision of submitted research across all science and medicine journals. Banned terms must be scrubbed. (Including gender, transgender, pregnant person, LGBT, and more)

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This is pretty dumb even by trump standards. You would think the right of all people would know that trying to ban terms will just result in new euphemisms and jargon being created.

Most of the research caught up is probably going to be using the terms incidentally (for instance, a drug study that happens to mention participants were AMAB) and this will cause a bunch of paperwork and probably just end up being changed to something like "gametically" or "chromosomally".

[–] fishos@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Think even more general than that. Ignore identity/gender/sexuality issues for a moment. How do you write a research article about the negative effects of a drug on pregnancy without using the word pregnant? About complications during a "normal pregnancy"(I'm using their word, not mine - please don't take offense - I hope you see where I'm going)? If you can't mention gender or pregnancy, even when it's about cis people, you suddenly can't do a whole hell of a lot of research.

[–] Kryptenx@lemmy.world 11 points 22 hours ago

Oh you can say pregnant woman. Just not pregnant person.

[–] spooky2092@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 1 day ago

You would think the right of all people would know that trying to ban terms will just result in new euphemisms and jargon being created.

The right thinks that if they clamp down hard enough that it will just go away, much like LGBTQ people were forced to mask and hide themselves like they had to back in the day, otherwise they ended up like Matthew Shepard. I don't know that they even consider the euphemism treadmill aspect of things, they just don't want these people to feel like they can be themselves and feel safe.

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