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[-] tehevilone@lemmy.world 116 points 5 days ago

If you aren't cooking by vibe, are you really living?

Baking on the other hand...

[-] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 66 points 5 days ago

Baking is chemistry, cooking is jazz.

[-] Ashiette@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

I have a Master's Degree in chemistry, I can't bake for shit. Cooking, on the other hand, I excel.

[-] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 15 points 5 days ago

Baking is actually ranching.

Yeast is closer to the animal kingdom than the plant kingdom. It's a living organism you need to feed so it will grow your food. You need to make it comfortable and give it an environment to thrive and then kill it when it's the yummiest.

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[-] TOModera@lemmy.world 33 points 5 days ago

Baking by vibe takes some work, and you should practice recipes by the letter before trying it, but it can be fun. It's more so knowing the impact of what you're adding.

Spices, for instance, can be added by vibe to some recipes. Flour, on the other hand, should be weighed out and a firm knowledge of ratio to fat rather then vibes.

[-] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

I had to bake by vibes one time because I started a recipe then realized I didn't have eggs and the friend the cake was for is lactose intolerant. Used a can of coconut milk. Turned into brownies instead of chocolate cake, but they were good enough that I've been intentionally making them since.

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[-] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago

With a deep enough knowledge of how baking works, it can be done. My sister improvises baked goods very well. The sad thing is that when one turns out amazing instead of just good, she can't replicate it because she doesn't know the recipe. I'm particularly sad I'll never again have the amazing butter rum pound cake she made for her daughter's birthday last year. She tried to make it again later, but it just wasn't the same. :(

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[-] SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 5 days ago

It requires more precision, sure, but there are absolutely bakers who can taste a dough and tweak the water/flour/oil etc. ratios to get the perfect bread.

It's only different from other kinds of cooking because most people haven't developed those senses. If you knew what you were doing, you could bake from scratch without a recipe easily and go by "vibes" (i.e. based on sensory input).

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[-] kerrigan778@lemmy.world 32 points 5 days ago

I'm pretty sure most cooks use spices according to their internal feelings on what contexts the spices work well in. Basically the smell test except they have enough experience with the spice already to just do it in their head. Pretty sure this isn't that unusual.

[-] Glasgow@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

The human sensory experience is much more varied and foreign to your own than you think. Some can combine flavours in their head, others couldn’t explain a flavour they eat daily unless it was in their mouths at the time.

I’m in the latter group but a supertaster and can tell what it’s missing with a spoonful usually. Couldn’t tell you what the result will taste like but know it’s lacking salt, cumin, herbs, etc. Wee sniff of what you’re going to add as you swallow to confirm.

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 59 points 5 days ago

"Can you share the recipe?"

"Nope!"

"Seriously?"

"Seriously, I don't remember."

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[-] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 4 days ago
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[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 34 points 5 days ago

All cooking is vibes based.

It's baking where you've got to plan it out like d-day.

[-] ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world 37 points 5 days ago

My chef yells at me because I do this all the time.

Though he's mainly mad because I didn't measure a single fuckin thing and can't recreate it

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 35 points 5 days ago

can't recreate it

This is the main downside IMO

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

also, if you do write down the recipe and try to recreate it on another day, it doesn't work because your mood has changed and now the flavor doesn't match anymore.

has happened to me many times now.

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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 5 days ago

I'm the rabbit. I also do a lot of tasting.

You may scream now.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 8 points 4 days ago

Tasting is how you're supposed to do it.

I however just start throwing shit in and wait for the surprise at the end.

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[-] CgH10N4Co2@lemmy.cafe 22 points 5 days ago

Wait until OP discovers that spices don't always taste like they smell...

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 8 points 5 days ago

tried beer for the first time yesterday, thought it would be better than the smell. Nope. Struggled through 3 sips then gave it to someone else 😭 I don't really get alcohol tbh. Ive only had like 3 or 4 drinks but no matter what it is they all taste bad :/

[-] Sivecano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago

It's a bit of am acquired taste but beers are by far not all created equal. There's a stupid amount of diversity and large differences.

But if you don't enjoy it don't feel the need to force yourself.

So, the first thing you need to know about alcohol is it's an intoxicating drug. It is a depressant, its short-term effects include reduced inhibitions which in the moment can feel like increased confidence, and overall reduction in physical motor skills, plus a mild euphoria. Also makes your face feel slightly numb. That's most of alcohol's selling point.

Alcohol on its own is rather unpleasant to have in your face. A lot of cocktail culture sprung up around hiding alcohol with other flavorings so they're in any way pleasant to swallow.

You might try something like whiskey and coke, I'd specifically go with American or Canadian whiskies here; scotch doesn't really bring the right flavors for this. There's a reason Jack Daniels or Crown Royal are stereotypes. Vodka can also be a way in; it doesn't bring a lot of flavor of its own so adding it to fruit juices can get you used to booze within familiar flavor profiles. Don't worry about sticking to posted recipes, drop a tablespoon of vodka into a tall glass of orange juice and see what it does, then start upping the ratio.

Get used to that, you may then start exploring cocktails, getting into wine or beer, or neat spirits.

[-] Taleya@aussie.zone 6 points 5 days ago

I fucking haaaaaaate hops, i hate the smell, i hate the taste, i also hate beer because i can literally smell the fermentation and it smells rotted.

Plenty of other ways to get turnt out there my friend

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[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Why yes, I do put a little cayenne pepper in my chicken soup. Why do you ask?

[-] abbotsbury@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Cayenne goes on everything

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[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

If it doesn't clear my sinuses completely how is it supposed to cure me? Of course it needs cayenne.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 days ago

It's funny that smelling the spices and the food as I cook it to see if they'll go well together is my main method of figuring out which spices to use.

[-] tfw_no_toiletpaper@lemmy.world 20 points 5 days ago

Isn't this just a sign of inexperience? If you have been cooking for a reasonable time, you will know which spices to use when going for what sort of flavour.

yeah but there's also a lot of people just seeing cooking as a chore and never really paying attention to it, therefore not learning much or anything at all.

it takes patience and a bit of dedication to actually learn cooking in a reasonable way. otherwise you're just following recipe.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 19 points 5 days ago

Considering the majority of flavours we experience are in fact smells, if you can cook by your nose you're usually pretty safe on how the end result will come out.

I'm not a foodie nor a chef but I've been able to break apart and reproduce restaurant dishes just by smelling.

[-] Agent641@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

"Measure carefully, friends!" - Chef Jean Pierre on YouTube as he yeets in approximately random eyeballed quantities of everything.

[-] EpeeGnome@lemm.ee 18 points 5 days ago

It's the only way to season food. If you're good enough, you can just imagine the flavors, but I still have to rummage the spice cabinet and sniff to get the dish to taste just right.

[-] Windex007@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

Critical is that HOW you learn this is trial and error.

Most people can imagine the result of combining two images, say a frog riding a turtle. We can imagine what a handful of wet spaghetti might sound like being dropped onto the hood of a car. We can imagine what a fluffy bunny that's been rolling in sand might feel like.

But that isn't just because those senses are somehow intrinsically better for synthesis and prediction. We just got a ton more practice with them. As kids we got to draw, we got to play with toys, we touched everything, we bashed all kinds of stuff together.

But most of us, we just got the food prepared for us with no awareness of the properties of the constituent ingredients.

You gotta act like a toddler in the kitchen to grow that part of your brain.

[-] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 9 points 5 days ago

I binge watched a lot of Hell’s Kitchen and Kitchen Nightmares (the UK) one

The best tip ever given on those shows is Gordon Ramsay yelling “taste taste taste!” at everyone.

Tasting as you go is what improved my cooking the most. I also vigorously smell everything too.

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[-] Hadriscus@lemm.ee 9 points 5 days ago

Blindly following recipes I will never get. How can you be comfortable with depending on a stranger's whims for what you eat ?

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 11 points 4 days ago

I almost always follow a new recipe the first time around to understand what the dish is generally supposed to be. After that, I start riffing off of it to make it what I want it to be. But you gotta know which general direction the dish was originally headed before you can successfully play with it if you're a Home Gamer in the kitchen.

[-] groet@infosec.pub 8 points 5 days ago

Ever been to a restaurant, ate a meal cooked by somebody other than yourself? Pre-made frozen meal? Fast food?

Dont want to sound mean or anything but most people are comfortable with having somebody else prepare a meal, so why is it different when you prepare it but somebody else tells you how to do it?

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

I give them one try and the next time I do it my way.

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[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 days ago

I usually try to stick reasonably closely to the recipe the first time I'm trying something out. That way if I don't like the result, I know it's not just that I ruined the recipe with my modifications.

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[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

Black bunny gang

[-] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago

I cook by vibe mostly because I don't have the items the recipe calls for. So I typically substitute whatever I have that I think fits or smells right. Works well 9/10, just when someone asks me what I used to make something, I have no fucking clue.

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 9 points 5 days ago

Either of the “as directed” users are just cowards with no taste buds.

[-] iii@mander.xyz 10 points 5 days ago

🔥🔥 people who don't use spice 🔥🔥

[-] atlas@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 days ago

i think that's called Britain

[-] SARGE@startrek.website 8 points 5 days ago

Which is insane, how do you pillage most of the planet looking for spices to sell people and then have the blandest food in the world...

[-] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago

Don't get high on your own supply

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