The period decimal point separator (bottom) is the single example in which Burgerland has a superior formatting system to Eurasia CMV : chat

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 35 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't know, the period might feel stronger to you because you have already accepted this meaning for text. For others, the comma feels "stronger" in the context of numbers. Partly because they are used to it, but it makes some sense too, because it is larger and has a defined direction. A period is just a little dot and, when written by hand, could easily be mistaken for a random smudge and vice versa an accidental contact of pen to paper could more easily be mistaken for a dot than for a comma.

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago

You're right; it's because of the established meaning. If I were creating a writing system from scratch in a contextless vacuum I'd switch them.

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 34 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

> come back to hexbear while taking a Christmas break

> People are once again arguing that Fahrenheit is "objectively" better for laypeople.

Thank you, feels like I've never been gone

[–] fanbois@hexbear.net 28 points 7 months ago

I don't care. Just unify it. If you work with data and databases in an international company it constantly fucks you over. Excel still falls apart when mixing seperators from different sources. It's so utterly dumb that we can't agree on how to write down numbers.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 22 points 7 months ago (1 children)

burgerland has a superior formatting system for once

superior formatting system or are you just used to it and have subjective biases

it's a superior formatting system ma'am

the period is "stronger"

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[–] huf@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

eh, i'm sure periods suck but a coma's surely worse

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'd rather have a period than a coma.

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[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 21 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

If you're going to use commas, just use the Oxford Comma.

110,042,500, and 38

[–] heatenconsumerist@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

One of those jokes that you laugh really hard at and somebody asks you "what's so funny" and you just feel ashamed at having to explain it in a way that's verbally funny.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I use celsius in everyday interactions with Americans and it's fun to watch their face wrinkle up

[–] miz@hexbear.net 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

temperature is so easy to convert check it out:

10 C = 50 F
20 C = 68 F
30 C = 86 F
40 C = 104 F

they're all 18 degrees F apart since a C is 9/5 of an F

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago (8 children)

i just double it and add 30 since its easy to do and close enough for most room temperatures

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[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

No it isn't

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[–] GayRichMac@hexbear.net 14 points 7 months ago (2 children)

In a sentence, the comma denotes a continuation of that sentence, whereas the period means full stop. Why should it be different for numbers?

A comma means you are continuing on the whole part of the number, whereas the period means the whole part is over, now on to the fractional aspect.

[–] bunnygirl@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I mean, wouldn't that lead you to spaces and commas being the actual choice

after all, both space and commas continue sentences in different ways, but a full stop ends a sentence, so why would you use it in this context to actually continue the same number

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago

:this:

[–] normal_user@hexbear.net 13 points 7 months ago (2 children)

My favorite way to do it is this one:

10'000,00

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

wowee

[–] REgon@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

Based

[–] syklemil@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The dot decimal separator is fine, but the comma should be left as a list separator. As in 3, 4, 10 000.0, 23, etc. So IMO none of them get it right. :)

[–] propter_hog@hexbear.net 10 points 7 months ago

The CSV understander has entered the chat

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[+] 2812481591@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

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[–] AntifaSuperWombat@hexbear.net 31 points 7 months ago

A check? Hey grandparent, ever heard of the 21. Century? sicko-zoomer

[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You just wrinkled my brain.

That's one of the reasons why they make you write it in words I suppose. Ideally, we shouldn't base our writing system on an outdated payment method.

Numbers existed before checks. Was the formatting system changed when handwritten checks were invented?

[–] cybersin@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The critique is valid for all written documents using the format, not just checks.

Checks are not the only numbered document throughout all of history where tampering of said document would be undesirable.

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[–] crosswind@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Either way it can easily be turned into 1,001.00 or 1.001,00. That's why there's a written out form of the number.

[–] mayo_cider@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I prefer 1e4

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 6 points 7 months ago

IEEE 754

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

I agree. And in many (most?) South Asian countries its written like 10,000.00

[–] sooper_dooper_roofer@hexbear.net 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (5 children)

that's not even close to a eurasian thing

also there's way better things where burgerland is better. farenhite, for example, where the range of realistic temperatures goes from 0-100, instead of -17 to 37 (all positive, nice range, and higher resolution)

[+] Hexboare@hexbear.net 45 points 7 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 33 points 7 months ago (2 children)

yeah fahrenheit sucks lol it's hilarious when Americans are like "it's so intuitive" my friend that is not what intuitive means you just learned it since the age of 4

[–] Krem@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago

centigrade is cool because the 0 point is something that makes sense, if it's negative degrees out you could see snow, you need to be super careful when driving, and if you have frost sensitive plants outside you need to take them inside. what happens at 0 degrees fahrenheit? nothing? what happens at 100 degrees? the outside temperature is the same as body temperature? ok good, cool and useful scale.

like everything else in burgerland it's completely based on nothing, impossible to convert to normal scale, and also it's only used by burgerites.

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[–] Bobson_Dugnutt@hexbear.net 8 points 7 months ago

If you want a temperature range that is optimised for indicating the weather, you wouldn't use fahrenheit, you'd come up with something not based on "the freezing temperature of a solution of brine made from a mixture of water, ice, and ammonium chloride"

Poppycock! Next you'll be saying that it doesn't make sense for 100 degrees to be defined by the body temperature of a horse.

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[–] ProfessorOwl_PhD@hexbear.net 25 points 7 months ago (13 children)

Fahrenheit's range of temperatures goes from "salt water starts to freeze" to "slightly higher than body temperature". I guess if you live on the coast the salt water kinda sorta makes sense, but the only thing that makes it seem "realistic" to you is that you use it. Like really, your list of pros is that the numbers are positive - don't ask what happens when the salt water freezees - it's a "nice range" (what is that even suppoosed to mean), and that it's higher resolution, despite humans not being able to tell the difference between 72 and 73°F and scientific instruments using celsius or kelvin instead. It's all nonsense american exceptionalism.

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[–] TankieTanuki@hexbear.net 11 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I'm a chemist so I like celsius. party-parrot-science

I know Europe uses the decimal comma. I threw Asia in there because I assumed they had mix of everything I guess.

[–] Xavienth@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 7 months ago

I pick the nice round numbers and declare them sensible boundaries, then I convert them to the other system and remark! They are ugly numbers! Haha! Truly the superiority of my system is self evident.

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 7 points 7 months ago

and higher resolution

Celsius thermostats have temperature adjustments of 0.5° C. This is the first time in over a decade that I've dug up that memory.

Over 40 is deadly, 35-40 is very hot, 30-35 is hot, 25-30 is warm, 20-25 is reasonable room temperature, 15-20 is cool, 10-15 is chilly (threshold of winter layers), 0-10 is cold, below 0 is freezing, below -10 you need multiple layers, below -20 moisture will freeze to your eyebrows and eyelashes and you can feel the air sucking the warmth out of your body.