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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I keep getting almost frustrated at how much transitioning has improved my life because I can't really explain how or why it has in a concrete way. For a while before my egg finally cracked I remember thinking that "okay I might maybe be trans but how on earth would that solve any of my problems?" and honestly I was kind of onto something there. How would becoming a girl solve any of my problems? That doesn't make any fucking sense! And then I transitioned anyway and oh wow I a lot of my problems have gone away! How does that work? I don't know and it feels like it shouldn't but it did!

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (15 children)

slightly better-formed whiningThe more I go on the more I am convinced that taking a monthlong sabbatical from life (almost my entire life is queers in the computer) broke something catastrophically in my brain. I am now pretty sure that leaving everyone and everything for longer than like, two days was a huge mistake.

I don't seem to be real normal about it anymore, which might be due to the realisation that talkin' to people is both something I need else my sense of self will melt, (no I don't know why) and a difficult tiring spoon-loss activity. Idk, but it seems like I'm not real capable of thinking about social matters without bursting into tears anymore. What even is wrong with me? badeline-concern

It's possibly true that being on the receiving end of a landleech rentdue notice has ended my ability to relax, which, sucks if true. The chronic pain bs is definitely cutting into my spoon supply. But more broadly it feels like what small scraps of emotional regulation I had just disappeared. My journal entries all look like Nevada paragraphs, and while your Ash will usually sprinkle in Nevada-esque embellishments because the orange book is her entire personality, if she starts writing entire paragraphs of weird dejected overly emotional snarky bullshit, that may be indicative of a problem! catgirl-sorry

It could be withdrawal from a single 37.5mg tab of tramadol causing this too, which I am having muscle twitches and shit, but Idk if "bawling your eyes out at the slightest provocation" is a tram withdrawal thing, it's been like four days or so. If yes I hate it.

I'm also bad at time management, I am told, which is true because I have some kind of brain issue where I haven't been reading Psycho Nymph Exile enough. Mostly making time for reading takes effort, and also bending my brain around weird things takes effort :3 so it's been a few days and I need to YELL AT MYSELF to read gay slop.

TL;DR my feet hurt I wish I had spoons! catgirl-flop

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[–] Wmill@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (11 children)

Recreational estrogen usage should be a thing I feel, popping a few with the homies and just vibin. For all I know this prob already a thing but not like I get invited to things sadness

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago

Hmmmmmm I'm soooo eepysleepy today~ (I was kept up till 7am by chronic pain but still woke up before noon) catgirl-flop

[–] RION@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (6 children)

Wait days to get a call back about sperm banking in case I want to have kids in the future.

Get called back in the middle of the work day

Person on the phone who's supposed to be "courteous and confidential" asks me questions I can't answer without announcing to the office I'm getting my jizz froze and takes ages to switch over to yes/no

Get told they don't take insurance for this (no mention of that on the website)

dog-screm

I hate this shit. I hope my therapist can help me w/ resources. For anything medical I usually rely on my mom for help but that's a no go here as she doesn't even know I'm on HRT

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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

watching other people chop vegetables is terrifying ngl

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[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

dysphoria, social anxietyHave a (free, yay. well, included in membership cost) consultation with a personal trainer/physical therapist guy at my gym coming up to help me design a better routine and diet and stuff

I talked to him yesterday but I'm not out at the gym and idk if I wanna out myself but I don't want to make things awkward there since it's like, the only "third place" I have rn

I dunno if telling him "yeah I really don't want bulky arms and shoulders and I'm trying to grow my hips and ass" would give him the hint or that'd be weird and don't really know how I'm gonna navigate that conversation

I guess I can come up with a plausible alibi about training for hiking and that I have a job offer to work for the forestry department so I'm wanting to work on my legs a lot for steep hill hiking for that?

The staff there all seem cool and it's a pretty inclusive gym (seen multiple other queer ppl there) but for some reason it's way less nerve-wracking thinking about just vaguely coming out to someone as just broadly queer than saying "uh, I have The Genderβ„’ actually"

I dunno

I feel like I'm more nervous about it than I should be but that's like always the case for me (GAD)

I'm doing a lot better overall the last month or so than my usual though? Idk, any thoughts? Thank you nice internet ppl cat-trans

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[–] KrupskayaPraxis@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 8 months ago

Since I have to wait on the estrogen to arrive again I was thinking of already taking the bicalutamide I have.

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (9 children)

How do you talk without your vocal chords deciding to randomly sound like they're sick for the next 24 hours sometimes

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[–] Octagonprime@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

A steam friend I played cs with a couple of times randomly gifted me webfishing a couple days ago and I'm so grateful. Being in queer spaces that are also small enough for me to not be too wrecked with social anxiety to participate in them is great and I already am making good friends and that's somehing I really needed. Just yesterday that same friend told me she's just started HRT and we hadn't talked about our gender and I came out to them as well but I think they already had the vibe considering trans people generally clocked me very easy before I even knew myself lol

[–] Kiagz@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Last week I started eating healthier and working out. I'm not comfortable with going to a gym, so I'm doing indoor cycling instead. So far it's going great, and I'm noticing that I feel better mentally after doing my workout doggirl-thumbsup

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[–] Tommasi@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

I'm in overanalyzing mode again doggirl-sweat

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Truth or Myth?: Estrogen HRT results in a lowered sex drive

Answer:

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (6 children)
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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

americans are so horny for marching bands it's weird

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[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

technically a good problem to have but I'm kinda at an annoying stage with laser. i can't quite justify shaving once a day, the growth just isn't there and I know it's bad for my skin. so like a day and a half is optimal but i still want to shave as soon as i can feel those teeny hairs even if they're literally not visible. and the day and a half schedule is inconvenient if I have to do stuff so I just end up over-shaving because i know it's gonna be an issue by the second evening, you know? once I get a few more sessions and I can comfortably wait 2 days between shaves it'll be fine, just an annoying in-between that's no good for my skin.

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[–] bolshevikLovelace@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

instead of working i have successfully absorbed 3 days of missed megathread posting into my cranium centrist

sappyi parasocially love you all trans-heart

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (1 children)

she zuck my mark till i erberg. this reads like a fucking eco post

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[–] LocalOaf@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

my Stuff I Just Think Is Neat windowsill update

How about those pinecones?

They're pretty big!

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@lemmy.today 12 points 8 months ago

Watched Moana with family for the first time yesterday. I long associated the 'How Far I'll Go Song' with trans experience (not necessarily that it was specifically intended to be interpreted that way), well before realizing I was an egg. I'm sure others self-insert in other ways, just like with Frozen's Let It Go. And plenty of people just think of them as being cute movies without thinking of anything being a metaphor.

Either way, was kinda funny watching a movie I personally associated with trans with the family on Thanksgiving. I should ask my brother why he picked that one out for us to watch.

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

hi, does anyone wanna make the mega in the upcoming weeks? if so, reply to this post and i'll add you to the list!

the list as it stands:

SwitchyWitchyandBitchy (12/2 - 12/8)
HelltakerHomosexual* (12/9 - 12/15)
GayTuckerCarlson* (12/16 - 12/22)
AshenWolf*  (12/23 - 12/29)
Eco* (12/30 - 1/5)
oscardejarjayes* (1/6 (The Darkest Day in Our Democracy.) - 1/12)

EstraDoll (3/2 - 3/8)

​ * after name denotes someone who has posted before and will be skipped by first-time posters

[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)

I lifted arm-L madeline-smug arm-R am on drugs today so tbh why not. Long may it continue...

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[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago

I pretty dramatically put my fists on my hips earlier today and oh wow they actually kind of hurt? holy shit are they doing what I think they are?

[–] lilypad@hexbear.net 12 points 8 months ago (9 children)

::: spoiler life is weird Meds have been helping... But still have all the (lack of) executive capacity, and seriously feeling the avoidant side of myself, getting very anxious about bringing people further into my life. Ive been so social lately, i feel like i may be overdoing it, and im trying to deal with that without overcorrecting and cutting all my friends and new aquaintances out of my life for the next 3 months catgirl-flop

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