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Hello everyone! Hestia here with a new Megathread! Years ago, before I transitioned and when I was still in college I took an anthropology class. My favorite part of the class was when we were covering different gender customs across the globe and got to make a report on one of them. I can't remember exactly which one I chose for that project, but what I do remember is a map with different pins scattered on it with various forms of gender-queerness. I decided to track it down and share it with you folks!

https://www.google.com/maps/d/u/0/viewer?ll=8.016975588774075%2C64.4248907814756&z=2&mid=1zDWxhBN5aOofwpE-FkZWQsiFDlE

Edit: you have to open this in a browser, if you're on a phone it will automatically try to open it in Google maps and won't bring up the info.

This map provides a brief summary of these genders, but does not go in depth. If you find any you're interested in, feel free to do some further research and share your findings here. I'll pin a comment to this post you can attach them. I'm going to share a couple that I found interesting and decided to look further into myself, both of them are non-binary and native american in origin.

The first one I want to talk about is the Winkte, which is a third gender role that was particulatly notable in the Lakota tribe The Winkte are seen as half-men, half-women, and considered sacred. They are typically AMAB and historically have served unique roles in matters of romance and matchmaking and often served as intermediaries for prospecting couples and their families. They also participated in war parties, functioning primarily as witnesses to battle and as doctors to care for the injured. They were also seen as seers, able to forsee paths to victory.

https://www.sdpb.org/blogs/arts-and-culture/the-winkte-and-the-hundred-in-hand/

This next one I'm going to talk about seems mostly local to the Zuni people called the "Lhamana" and I find the Zuni culture to be particularly fascinating, even just doing a cursory glance at it.

Gender roles were well defined in Zuni culture, but the Zuni also valued the concept of a "middle" as it represented stability. This originates from their creation myth, which I won't go in detail here because I don't feel qualified to summarize it, but it's in the link down below.

The Zuni culture is pretty neat and they don't refer to gender when talking about children. They believed that gender wasn't an inborn trait but something you acquired as you approached puberty. I wish this was the western approach, but alas.

As children approach puberty they begin to differentiate through different hair styles or clothing choices. AFAB Lhamana would grind corn and make a bowl of stew when they get their first period. There's probably some cultural significance to this, but I'm not going to do a deep dive on it right now. AMAB Lhamana would start to wear dresses once they hit puberty and start performing women's work. Both AMAB and AFAB Lhamana were allowed to switch between male and female gender roles as they pleased.

https://owlcation.com/social-sciences/The-Middle-Gender-in-Zuni-Religion

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[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Person was talking to me and my friend and asked what both of our pronouns were, when they have known the person next to me is a cis guy that uses he him. Instead of asking me directly what my pronouns were the cowardly asked "everyone" to try and perform being nice.

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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 8 points 1 day ago

sasuke uchiha estrogen arc

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

okay, after a 2-1 vote in favor of me saying something, i will now be saying it:

spoiler

[–] Beetle@hexbear.net 4 points 23 hours ago

Banger post

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

look at them go

i'm sorry for doubting you and holding you back

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

it's ok... thank you for apologizing

[–] Tomboymoder@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago
[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

thank you :)

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Ok I'm going clothes shopping for real this time

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago

buster baxter transgender conspiracy

[–] Bureaucrat@hexbear.net 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago

the biggest tragedy of the war in ukraine is that the heart of russia dlc never got released for ets 2

[–] anonochronomus@hexbear.net 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have Narcissistic Personality Disorder. I live in a house with 4 other people with NPD, they're my dysfunctional family, and I'm the scapegoat. I need help really bad. I'm finally making arrangements to move away and go no contact. I've been abused my entire life by unfeeling monsters and there's only one thing I can do about it; put asphalt between me and them. I feel like I cracked some sort of code or puzzle, or like actually physically got to the bottom of somewhere or something. Ya girl, anon, needs some therapy.

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i feel like the government can incentivise a switch to electric cars as much as they like, it doesn't change the fact that they're like Β£30k minimum

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

yeah make the people who can't afford to switch poorer by taxing them more this is very smart

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

i'll just sell my Β£1,500 shitbox to buy one i can just cover the other Β£28,500

Don't worry. Just get like $10,000 in tax credits that you definitely early enough to use. Also do other home upgrades to get another $10,000 in tax credits that are definitely useful for you. Manufactures definitely won't also mark of prices because they know people who do make that kind of money will be using the credits in their accounting of the total vehicle cost, making those vehicles more expensive for poor people.

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago (4 children)

i decided to innovate

can i please say something

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

thank you for permission after the fact

[–] Josephine_Spiro@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I saw a post in the post parking lot, I needed to make sure that you knew you bought the correct parking pass. Half the posts put here are unregistered these days, its good to have someone who cares. If you are thinking about posting again however, you are going to need a new permit. Gonnna cost you at least one or two barks/meows. Sorry, I don't make the rules, I just violently enforce them.

[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 3 points 20 hours ago

ok... i will meow later...

[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] iridaniotter@hexbear.net 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] gaystyleJoker@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

i posted it already!

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

playing fun trans femme games like: intentionally changing your pace as you go up or down stairs to make your tits jiggle

Found out today I shouldn't jog with only a loose tshirt. Not pleasant.

[–] GenderIsOpSec@hexbear.net 10 points 1 day ago

life is pretty good today, ya know? catgirl-happy

[–] Beetle@hexbear.net 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hanging out with fellow transmascs is so funny. Can’t really explain why so I’ll just leave it at that. (It was cool though)

I'm always jealous of trans masc groups :(

I love my trans femmes, very supportive, can be hilarious, thought provoking, intelligent, beautiful. But the sheer goof-offitude of a group of trans mascs being trans mascs... I wish

[–] EstraDoll@hexbear.net 9 points 1 day ago

i am going to s*mp for that one tired looking girl from mouthwashing

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 12 points 1 day ago

Edie has had there social position, personal integrity, leftist credentials, and gender credentials savaged.

Jokes on you. You can never savage the gender credentials of the pronoun cat meow-shining

[–] Yukiko@hexbear.net 19 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Putting stuff behind spoiler tags now for reasons.

CW: Surgical recoveryThis has been way rougher than I could have anticipated. I hurt. I hate laying in bed. I’m lonely. I’m constantly sore. It’s hard to do much more besides watch tv which is literally just every episode of 80s Price is Right. I genuinely don’t want to be on my mobile devices. I’m bored. I wanna paint minis. I wanna get on my PC. My caretaker yells at me (and rightfully so) every time I think of getting out of bed. Ugh. The next two weeks can’t go quickly enough. Oh and I also can’t sleep more than three hours at a time and I can’t remember what day of the week it is.

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[–] Eco@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

i have the bad hasbara theme stuck in my head ahh

[–] Eco@hexbear.net 18 points 1 day ago (5 children)

what do you mean there was an american politician called larry eagleburger

i genuinely don't believe you

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[–] ashinadash@hexbear.net 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

weird body image stuff IdkI was staring at myself in the mirror again--I spend so much fucking time looking at my reflection lmao--and there are obvious details that have changed if you look. I put on some weight, my face has thinned out (which was weird to see in my health card photos, but rules) and all that.

But the overall picture is kind of the same as when I was 18, despite that? You can still see my ribs, I still have noodle arms, I haven't needed to buy a cup size up or anything. My proportiins are surprisingly similar.

It's weird, I literally do not know how to feel. All the big exciting changes seem to have happened in like, the first year or two. And yet clearly all the barely-visible little tweaks and whatever made the actual difference, cuz I do not get misgendered anymore, lmao.

Recently I have been feeling like my body's been in stasis for a decade which is a WEIRD WEIRD feeling. Maybe that's why new fluffy hair on my forearms and calves weirded me out so much, because I haven't seen a major change since years ago? Maybe I will get incredibly fucked up when I develop wrinkles, lol

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